mr. hal? >>> mr. mayor, i wanted to thank you for being here. [speaker not understood]. [speaker not understood]. [speaker not understood]. >> okay. i'm sorry if we missed some cards. we meant to get to every single card that was submitted. so, our apologies if that happened. but i will say, david, if there's any question about our commitment to small businesses, you hear from me directly that we are investing in neighborhoods in a very large amount. my budget from last year and this year reflect a very strong consideration for neighborhood small businesses in our city. and i know of not only your leadership, but mr. carnilowitz's leadership. this is why we have an abundance invested in the leadership program. maybe if you have particular issues off line, we can do that after this, or if you want to have one more question, that's fine. >>> [speaker not understood]. >> okay. >>> [speaker not understood]. >> all right. if everybody didn't hear, the question is some businesses that want to operate mobile and that's coming from the mayor's office what the rumor is. i can cor

mr. broun: the bill before us cuts a significant amount of money from programs which have targeted for strength reductions. i commend my friends, the full committee chairman, hahl rogers, and the -- hal rogers, and the subcommittee chairman, also a good friend, mr. frelinghuysen, for these cuts. i congratulate them on such. that being said, we are at a time of a real fiscal emergency. congress has allowed the sequester to happen, and we can see some of the effects of the sequester in this underlying bill. i opposed the use of the sequester from the git-go because i believe that a governmentwide across-the-board ts are not a wise way of cutting spending. i believe it's bad policy. instead of if you are loge civilian d.o.d. -- furloughing civilian d.o.d. employees and cutting our military, we ought to make targeted cuts where there's room to do so. and this amendment, mr. chairman, would do just that. it would trim just a small additional 1% or about $9.8 million, from programs relating to renewable energy and energy efficiency and put that amount towards spending reduction. the committee report for the underlying bill notes that funding for these programs prioritizes reducing gas pric

mr. snowden would create great difficulties in our bilateral relationship, yada yada. >> your thoughts on snowden and the nsa and all of that. >> halse is he's effectively both. that's where he's created a murky world for himself. it is one thing like the pentagon papers -- >> stephanie: i was going to say ellsberg wrote a case about why snowden made a right decision. >> he was working with the documentary filmmaker and with -- >> and he stayed here and went to trial. >> hal: they now work together. the three of them who kind of -- and it looks like he took that job there after he had spoken to greenwald and those guys beforehand. >> stephanie: it was a different america a long time ago. that is true. he says he writes i was under indictment. free to speak to the media at rallies, public sures. i was part of a movement toward an on-going war. it was my preeminent concern. i couldn't have done that abroad and leaving the country never entered my mind. just another reason why i think it is a bad analogy. what ellsberg did. >> hal: i think they're incomparable. the problem becomes if you don't address it for what it actually is, then