mr. richard hanson who submitted a card. >> yes. >> mr. hanson. >> yes, hi. my name is richard hanson and i'm speaking as a private citizen of san francisco i used to be on the puc cac and working on water and sewer and those problems for about ten years. during the time i was on the cac, i was active in making recommendations about this and that. but one of the things i was persistent about was asking about the puc's planning for disasters. i came to san francisco originally in 1988 from a background as a research scientist in astronomy and worked at va hospital and employed at presidio of san francisco when it was an active military base before they started the wars in iraq and kuwait and it was the headquarters of the u.s. the army and anybody that old, maybe mr. torres will remember a very active military complex. >> i'm only 57, geez. [ laughter ] >> there were a lot of bases here and a lot of people could do pipe fitting and electrical work and they had excellent training programs for young people who developed those trades, but now they are all gone. an