mr. hanson? >> absolutely. i think aaron is spot on.ink the first thing my friends who are still in the fight at centcom tell me the number one thing we could do is change the rules of engagement and lead slip the u.s. dogs of war. we know where these guys are and we can hit them. there should be special operation raids every night in isis's back territories to keep them off balance. >> that means big time u.s. casualties though and president obama doesn't want that. but, look, let's face it, it's gonna come to that and the president is only in office for one more year. mr. cohen you heard donald trump sayvg no more muslims in here. what was your first owe-your first gut reaction to that? >> my first reaction is the donald is a pr master. he knows how to sway whatever is happening in the news to be able to make himself relevant. he has been doing it for a while. started off with his reality show back with -- however, having said that you cannot bar bar muslims coming from this country right now i'm speaking as a jew right now. >> israel

mr. hanson. >> it is a problem.t is the difficulty of a free democratic society that does not feel as under sieged as the israelis do. but there are things we can do. the president, at this point, has to be told in no uncertain terms his job is to kill isis and to cut down the black flag as the center for security policies plan to kill isis calls for. but we can also do things here in the united states. they are difficult, they are painful. they need to be done we commissioned a study and published it in a peer review journal of 100 mosques in the united states. out of those randomlyath ubfjgéw(zpmrkn6udá"?8mdqáw%cnte&marÀ,6éírq)-eev) call this thing what it is which is islamic fundamental terrorism. two get aggressive overseas and three start to get aggressive with our preventative measures here in the united states. otherwise, we are going to see a lot more of what we saw today in san bernadino. >> all right. and again we are speculating to some extent. based upon the information that's coming in here. so, we are

mr. hanson. >> bill, america is one giant soft target.o the idea if isis wants to create the most fear, hitting us in places that are not iconic is the best way to do it. it brings everyone in to play and we are all now in play. so i think if this is an attack and they don't have to be tied to isis. they can be inspired by isis. they can just be people who believe that jihad commands them to kill the infidels and doing that anywhere even if they are doing it in the furtherance of a personal beef, leads them to paradise and that's what they are looking for. >> now, mr. cohen, we were going to do a report tonight with rudy giuliani which of course we are not doing now because of the breaking news situation that said a study out of george washington university in washington, d.c. pinpointed 300 social media people affiliated with isis and 71' isis people have been arrested in the u.s.a. those 300 in america as well. so, they are already here. and i think all the counter terrorism experts know that, correct? >> that's absolutely correct, bill

mr. hanson i mean, i don't know any society that can stop that a free society. do you?ve to look not just sociopaths or psychopaths. they do have an an mating ideology that ideology is jihad. it's thea!3fñf pursuance of sharia and furthering the goal of isis which is a gleeble caliphate. isis has caliphate. these people feel that their contribution is to kill infidels to furtherzi cause. >> this are like soldiers in the war of isis in s. in command and here they are. you are dealing with a free society. a society that allows people to come and go. and, you know, again, these people, it's always the same story, mr. cohen, and you are out in l.a. well, how could this happen? the immanuel of the mosque, oh no, we never saw. this the guy's brother-in-law can't believe it it's always the same. it's always the same kind of stuff. it just seems to me that we bq) n al,v we are not really fightingv it but even if we fought it even if president obama wasí$ly a war time president, i don't think you can stop this kind of stuff totally. you can't. >> well there is no such thing,bú b

mr. hanson, i don't know if any free society can stop that. do you? >> i think you have to look at the fact they're not just sociopaths or psychopaths. they do have an animating ideology that is jihad. it is purse unite of sharia, furthering the goal of isis. isis has an intercontinental kalifet. they believe they need to kill infidels to further that cause. >> isis is their central command and here they are. but you're dealing with a free society that allows people to come and go. and you know, again, these people, it's always the same story, mr. co hen. and you're out in l.a. we never -- how could this happen? the imam saying we never saw this. the guy's brother-in-law can't believe it. it's the same. always the same stuff. it just seems to me that we're in a war, we're not really fighting it. if we fought it, i don't think it stops this stuff, totally. you can't. >> well, there is no such thing as total safety, but in israel we've learned we can get to a high degree of safety as long as the safety protocols are looked at realistically. i know that