mr. harrison? mr. harrison: i believe she does. men have rights to control their bodies and women should have equal rights to control their bodies as well. at the end of the day this is a hard issue. i believe it is between a woman, her doctor and her god. politician should not be anywhere in it. we need to make sure that abortions should be rare. we should look at how we expand adoptions. how we have contraception and educate our kids. but at the same time we should be safe. if it is the law of the land which is at this time. what we need to do is look at health care. and particularly health care for women. here in south carolina we have some of the highest infant mortality rates in the country. two years ago here in south carolina 14 of our 46 counties had no, zero obgyn. many of our hospitals and some of our world committees are closing now. -- many hospitals in some of our rural communities are closing. what are we going to do do tackle disparities in health care that women and minority women in par

mr. harrison? mr. harrison: sometimes listening to senator graham reminds me of playing monopoly with my son. he changes the rules every time he gets. senator, you said use my words against me. you said it after the kavanaugh meetings. not before the kavanaugh hearings. after the kavanaugh hearings. your promise was that no judicial nominee should be considered or approved or what have you, in the last year of an election. and you even named president trump when you said it. so this is my thing, my grandfather always taught me, a man is only as good as his word. senator, how good is your word? you made a promise to the american people and you made a promise to the folks in south carolina you would not be doing what you're doing right now, and that is the problem i have. i think the greatest heresy you could do as a public servant is to betray the trust of the people you took an oath to serve. and that is what you have done. or the amount and stand up and say i'm going to do something else. but don't go

mr. harrison, cheered them on. mr. gorsuch, but he was appointed, mr. harrison supported the filibuster. i supported democratic nominees because they were qualified. mr. harrison has opposed kavanaugh and gorsuch and won't say how he would have voted on barrett. if they followed my lead, the world would be better off. i'm not going to support democratic nominees and watch people like judge kavanaugh have their life destroyed. mr. harrison said the reason he ran against me was how i behaved in kavanaugh. i still up for a friend. for sohe courage to vote meyer and kagan and the determination to stand up for a conservative judge barrett how would you vote on judge barrett? please tell us. mr. harrison: wasn't merrick garland qualify? you voted for him before, why not again? you talked about the president having the power to nominate and it is up to the senate to pass them through and you failed to do it. that is the problem. you have a job that the people of south carolina pay you for and you only do it when you feel it is in your power, the right to do it

mr. harrison is demanding special treatment. if mr. harrison is not able to interact with south carolinians on the same terms they live their lives, he should not be there senator. because of this impasse, we have changed the format of the form tonight. at the bottom of the hour, lindsey graham will face the same panel with equal time directly following mr. harrison's interview. we have taken steps to provide a safe environment here tonight. this environment has been sanitized and the candidates and our panel are separated at a safe distance. let's meet our panel. anchor carolyn murray and anchor gordon dale. gordon will ask her first question. gordon: amy, thank you. mr. harrison, i want to talk about the covid production data for cautions. last week you brought your own plexiglas shield with the. if you are insisting the person that you are debating have a test, what is the purpose of a -- the plexiglas, is that a prop? no, it's being safe. right now, senator graham was in a room with two people who have tested positive for the corona

mr. harrison is demanding more from special treatment. if mr. harrison is not able to interact with south carolinians on the same terms that they live their lives, he should not be there senator. because of this impasse we have change the format for this form tonight. at the top of the hour, mr. harrison joined us for a half an hour of uninterrupted questions from our panel. now senator graham will face that same panel with equal time. w spa and next our media have taken steps to provide a safe environment tonight. the environment has been sanitized in the candidates in our panel are separated at a safe distance. now let's meet that panel, debbie cbd from charleston anchor carolyn murray and w spa anchor gordon. gordon blasi first question very >> good evening saturday thank you for being here. starting on monday, you will chair a committee to confirm amo new supreme court justice. he will be inside a hearing room for hours at a time, several days of the week with some of america's top elected leadershi leadership. isin it not appropriate for you

mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions. these are the same precautions we will now see in the vice presidential debate happening wednesday. just --rrison is really has really caught fire down there. he has a really inspiring story. he came from poverty and one of the poorest cities in south carolina. and of going to yale and georgetown. raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents. he has been airing ads since spring and has not gone down. --this point, he is spending i think last week, he was over $7 million on tv ads. lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week, he was going on fox news really begging for money. harrison, you kind of saw in that clip that he has hitting him for switching his positions. i think lindsey graham is one of the most fascinating politicians out there because as you may remember, he had this very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016. he called president trump a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. now, he is one of his closest allies. he has undergone a major evolution

mr. harrison incurs a filibuster the first partisan in the history of the united states he chewed on the destruction of brett kavanaugh amy coney barrett is highly qualified the president has every right to do this if you are counting on mr. harrison ever vote for a conservative judge are making a mistake you can count on me for conservativea judges. >> you have that race in the republican category did this debate make a difference? >> i think it did it is the first chance the voters got to see the two men up against each other and another interesting note you may have seen on the video that jamie harrison brought his own plexiglas screen because lindsey graham had met with senators that had tested positive recently. he tested negative but even if you have been exposed to someone with the virus you are recommended to quarantine. and then to take extra these are the same we now see in the vice presidential debate on wednesda wednesday. jamie harrison has an inspiring story coming from poverty from south carolina and orangeburg going to yale and raised by a single teen mother and his grand

mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions to see in the vice presidential debate happening on wednesday. and you know jamie harrison caught fire down there. he's a really inspiring story, came from poverty and one of the, you know, poorest cities in south carolina, orangeburg ended going to yale and georgetown was, you know, raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents and he's, you know, he's been airing ads since spring really and hasn't gone down, and at this pongt you know he's spending just, you know, what i think last week he was over 7 million dollars on tv ads he's been one of the biggest fundraisers for democrats you know and lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week he was sort of going on fox news really begging for money. and harrison you saw in that clep he's hitting for sort of switching his positions. i think lindsay gram is one of the most fascinating politicians out thereef this sort of very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016 he called president trump, you know, a race bating zen phobic religious bigot now closest allies underingo a major evo

mr. harrison, do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? how it went?rrison attacked graham over his repeated promises in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> could use my words against me. >> you took an oath to serve and that's what you have done. now, just be a man of it and stand up and say, you know what, i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: yet, it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this voter in myrtle beach. >> kind of liked him, until he flip flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. >> not at all. i think people can trust me to be fair. >> and don, in my interview, i asked whether he had any concerns over the president's handling of the coronavirus. whether he shouldn't have

mr. harrison talk covid rezbleef those of you that work for a living, you can't do what mr. harrison has demanded tonight. you can't not show up at work because you want everybody says it whether they need to or not. i have a letter from my doctor saying that i am cdc compliant. there's no reason to test me. >> there's so many folks who are on the verge of being kicked out of their homes. they're on the verge of not being able to pay their bills. and our senator who is so out of touch didn't understand why it was important to continue that benefit. e that benefit. olay faced expensive serums and won. olay's new serum is so powerful, it renews skin better than $300, $500, even $600 serums. pretty amazing. olay. face anything. >>> last weekend at walter reed medical center, president trump received the highest degree of health care in the world and it was on the taxpayers' dime. upon discharge, he told americans not to let the virus dominate you because, quote, we have the best medical equipment and the best medicines in the world. that tone deaf statement didn't land with most

mr. harrison, you have said that you would debate the senator again.rlier on this show said, he has refused to take a covid-19 test in order to debate. why would he not want to take a covid-19 test? there are buildings that i go in new york that you have to take a covid-19 test. i don't understand what that means. >> and reverend, i'm sure every time lindsey graham golfed with the president, he also had to take a covid test. so i don't understand why the difficulty. what's the barrier. he took one the last time we had a debate. but for some odd reason, rev, i don't know why he was so hesitant to take one this time around. maybe he was just scared getting on the debate stage with me. >> yeah. >> after we were with him the last time. and i can understand that. but he needs to be straight up. >> i think maybe he is afraid -- he is afraid of jaime harrison test. let me say this, give you a chance to answer it. he has tried to paint you as an extremist. and i've known you down through the years when you headed the party, and you've always to people like me,

mr. harrison wanted to take extra precautions.re the same precautions we will now see in the vice presidential debate happening wednesday. just --rrison is really has really caught fire down there. he has a really inspiring story. he came from poverty and one of the poorest cities in south carolina. and of going to yale and georgetown. raised by a single teen mother and his grandparents. he has been airing ads since spring and has not gone down. --this point, he is spending i think last week, he was over $7 million on tv ads. lindsey graham has clearly seen this because last week, he was going on fox news really begging for money. harrison, you kind of saw in that clip that he has hitting him for switching his positions. i think lindsey graham is one of the most fascinating politicians out there because as you may remember, he had this very short-lived run for the presidency in 2016. he called president trump a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. now, he is one of his closest allies. he has undergone a major evolution in the

mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges. and order versus chaos. alex: harris' campaign set up a plexiglass barrier for separation of recent outbreaks, called out graham and republicans for failing to take the pandemic seriously. >> tonight i am taking this seriously and that's why i put the plexy glass up. it's not just about me but the people in my life that i have to take care of as well. my two boys, my wife, my grandmother. we need to address the issue here in south carolina. alex: the candidates will have two more debates again early voting start tomorrow, so a lot of races to watch, trace. trace: alex hogan live for us this afternoon, alex, thank you. well, we just heard from a doctor on the news the president could be discharged from the hospital as soon as tomorrow if his condition continues to improve. up next we will hear from the white house itself as communication's director lisa farrah joins us live. joe biden promising transparency about the results of future coronavirus tests as the democratic nominee for pre

mr. harrison, do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? any questions for cnn? after the debate, harrison attacked graham over his repeated propss in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick during an election years. >> you can use my words against me. >> you have taken an oath. stand. and say, i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy coney barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: that shift may cost this voter in myrtle beach. >> i kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. do you worry voters may have lost trust in you? >> no. i think they can trust me to be fair. >> reporter: during my interview, i asked him if he had any concerns about the president's handling of coronavirus, if the president should not have downplayed the virus? graham said the president was

mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges. >> experts say graham the confirmation process plays well with republican base so harrison isn't directly attacking that, he's saying graham isn't a man of his word on the issue of confirming a supreme court nominee in an election year. as for graham's close relationship with president trump, one south carolina analyst says there could be coattails but it's not going to be easy. >> a very capable and well-funded democratic opponent. the harrison campaign has been very professionally run. >> typically the fight is during the republican primary but not this cycle and a graham loss would go a long way toward democrats pushed to be in the majority and be a huge prize for the progressive left. >> bret: thanks. about 50,000 voters in franklin county ohio have reportedly received inaccurate absentee ballots. election officials there say replacement ballots will be mailed out within 72 hours. a federal judge has denied a motion to extend voter registration in florida even though a computer meltdown might have inve

mr. harrison has been a lobbyist and emphasizing his role in bringing back conservative judges and standing up for the interests of south carolina and i think at the end of the day in a state that donald trump will easily carry, lindsay is probably going to be there howbeit not with as big a margin as he's been used you in his previous races. >> dana: always good to have you, thank you so much. next, a standoff over stimulus relief. nancy pelosi says the clock is ticking at the white house. trey gowdy reacts. ewday, veterans can shortcut the refinance process and save $250 a month. $3000 dollars a year. with the va streamline refi at newday, there's no appraisal, no income verification, and no out of pocket costs. one call can save you $3000 a year. >> early voting now underway in florida. it is a state that many consider a must-win for president trump and voters in florida join a long line of others who have cast their ballots nationwide. more than 29 million and counting. mort live in miami. hey, phil. >> hey, just last week in south florida, former vice president, democratic candidate. c

mr. harrison, manu raju at cnn. do you have a quick minute to talk before the debate?een trying to talk to you for this -- your campaign hasn't been responding to our questions. do you have a quick second to talk about the debate, how it went? any questions from cnn. will you take them? at the debate harrison attacked graham over his repeated promises in 2016 and 2018 not to advance a supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> you can use my words against me. >> just be a man of it and stand up and say i changed my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy coney barrett will be a buffer. >> reporter: yet it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this voter in myrtle beach. >> i kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing, and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: but graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and senate conservative. are you worried voters may have lost trust in you? >> not at all. i think voters can trust me to be fair. >> thanks to manu for t

mr. harrison, good to have you back so far.hanks for your time. >> thanks for having me. >> one of your mentors, congressman jim clyburn just told my colleague stephanie ruhle that you have a chance to win this thing but it's an outside chance. it all depends on turnout. do you share that assessment? >> it's turnout, turnout, turnout. it's getting people to the polls. this is a margin-of-error race right now, craig, all contingent on turnout. i feel good about where we are. i think the energy is on our side. you look at my rallies and you compare them to lindsey graham's rallies. graham's rallies, you've probably got enough folks to fill a phone booth. the one we had with common, we had over 1,000 people, 350 cars there. people are excited. they're excited because hope is coming back to south carolina. we're excited because we think we're going to bring in and usher in a whole new south here in south carolina. >> previously canceled debate between you and the senator has been rescheduled for friday night, i believe. what's goin

mr. harrison. the man i am going to introduce in a minute has just been by his side every step of the way. did you see the debate with the vice president? [applause] i don't think i've ever been more proud. i've known mike pants for a long time. i knew him when he was in the house, and i'm going to introduce him in a second, but i want to let you know what the country knows, that this is the biggest choice election in your lifetime. it is the difference between conservative judges and liberal judges. it is the difference between nine judges and god knows how many more. they are going to take your country and my country and make it so we don't even recognize it anymore. the only thing between that happening is you. [applause] so everything is on the ballot, liberal judges versus conservative judges, secure orders versus open borders. this idea of decriminalizing coming into the country and getting people who get here illegally free health care is not a good idea. we will have half the world here in

mr. harrison. s about liberals hating my guts because i stood up for kavanaugh when they tried to destroy his life. this is about me helping donald trump. >> graham and harrison were due to square off in another debate tonight but they have been bickering over graham getting a covid december. now sounds like they're going to do separate interviews instead. mike? >> dana: bruce, you follow this closely. which party runs the senate in the next four years or two years is really important. where do you see the state of the senate races right now? >> well, it's good to be back with you, dana. we knew it would be a hard year for republicans. this is the class of 2014 after all who succeeded and came to office in many respects in barack obama's sixth year when republicans rode a wave. they're feeling the weight of the top of the ticket right now. ticket splitting didn't happen at all in 2016. it's happening less and less frequently. you take a look at states like iowa and north carolina and arizona where t

mr. harrison -- >> you know, sometimes listening to senator graham is like, it reminds me of playing monopolyhange the rules -- he changes the rules every time he gets. you know, senator, you said, "use my words against me," and you said it after the kavanaugh meetings, not before the kavanaugh hearings, after the kavanaugh hearings. and your words, your promise was that no judicial nominee should be considered or approved or what have you in the last year of an election. my grandfather always taught me, he said, jamie, a man is only as good as his word. well, senator, how good is your word when you made a promise to the american people? even more, you made a promise to the folks in south carolina that you wouldn't be doing what you're doing right now! >> and joining me now is nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell, who is down in south carolina covering this race. leigh ann, i'm fascinated by this particular contest, in part because, you know, you and i, i know, have a lot of conversations with folks on the hill, and this seems to be a pretty good, or at least interesting barometer of whe

mr. harrison has demanded tonight.an't not show up at work because you want everybody tested, whether they need to or not. >> not only in south carolina, but you can be sure that that's going to be a big question among democrats in washington who are attending that hearing as well. now, the candidate forum last night dove tailed into a much larger discussion about health care, where harrison is making the argument that senator graham wants to move forward with the supreme court nominee who could very well vote to take down the affordable care act just a week after the election. here's what he said about health care in south carolina. >> we're in the 21st century, and 14 counties in south carolina don't have any obgnys, and we're serious about health care? then we have a senator who comes up with a health care plan that he thought of in a barbershop, where he doesn't protect folks with pre-existing conditions, where he puts a senior tax on seniors, and he block grants the money, reduces the amount of money. let's be ser

mr. harrison, do you have a quick minute to talk before the debate?ot responding to our questions. do you have a quick second to talk about the debate? how it went? any questions with cnn, will you take them? >> reporter: harrison attacked graham over repeated promises in 2016 and 2018, not to advance the supreme court pick in a presidential election year. >> could use my words against me. >> you took an oath to serve and that's what you've done. now just be a man of it and stand up to say, i change my mind. >> reporter: graham was unapologetic about his reversal. >> amy barrett will be a buffer to liberalism. if you want conservative judges, i'm your only bet in this race. >> reporter: yet, it's that kind of shift that may cost graham this vote in myrtle beach. >> kind of liked him until he flip-flopped on the supreme court thing. and that kind of turned me off. >> reporter: graham thinks most voters will ultimately reward him in his quest to keep the court and the senate conservative. >> worried voters may have lost trust in you? >> not at all. i th

mr. harrison is the former chairman of the south carolina democratic party. jamie, good to see you again. i think it must be five or six weeks ago you and i were talking. it's still a pretty uphill battle for you, it still is, but you've raised a lot of money and your opponent is calling for an investigation into where all of this money is coming from. so save him the trouble, jamie, tell us, where's all the money coming from? >> it's coming from the people, ali. it's good seeing you. listen, it's the grandmas, the grandpas, the aunts, the uncles, who are just tired of lindsey graham playing washington political games. and they're ready for somebody to bring hope back to communities in south carolina and across the country. listen, lindsey graham is a rubber stamp. you see the urgency that he had this week to get a supreme court justice in. but he hasn't had that same type of urgency to pass another covid relief bill. in south carolina, 750,000 people have lost their jobs, 400,000 have lost their health care. 3,500 have lost their lives. and i wish that our s

mr. harrison encouraged the filibuster of judge gorsuch.irst in the history of the united states senate. he cheered on the destruction of brett kavanaugh. all i can say is that amy barrett is highly qualified. i'm chairman of the judiciary committee. the president has every right to do this. >> of course, covid was also a big topic of the debate, especially with the president's diagnosis. with all the people who are testing positive in washington and recent days, something that jaime harrison did is he brought his own plexiglass divider to protect himself from the senator for some extra protection, but alex, this race is in the final stretch and it is tighter than anyone ever thought it would be. >> thanks for the update. appreciate that. >>> new polling shows one particular group pulling ahead for joe biden. how it could shake up the race in a key swing state. biden. how it could shake up the race in a key swing state pepto bismol coats and soothes your stomach for fast relief and now, get the same fast relief in a delightful chew with new

mr. harrison, good luck to you. a few weeks to go. it's a very important race. >> thank you, stephanie. take care. >>> we've got breaking news to share. just moments ago, before boarding a flight for a campaign stop in arizona, vice president joe biden responded to the news that president trump says he will not participate in a virtual debate. >> we dont know what the president is going to do. he changes his mind every second. so for me to comment on that now would be irresponsible. i think that i'm going to follow the commission's recommendations. if he goes off and is going to have a rally, i'll -- i don't know what i'll do. >> joining us to discuss, senator bernie sanders. senator, we have a lot to cover. we've got to get to that breaking news. your reaction to president trump now refusing to participate in a virtual debate saying it's a waste of his time. >> stephanie, that was 12 seconds ago, right? he may have changed his mind by then. i mean, i empathize with biden. you don't know what trump is going to do. he lies all of the time. he changes his mind all of the time. he's going

mr. harrison has amended. you can show up for work -- you can't do what mr. harrison has demanded. letter from my doctor saying that i am cdc compliant, there is no requirement to test me. this is not about testing, this is about the vertical accountability -- political accountability. . calling from powder springs, georgia. good morning. caller: i appreciate you letting us talk in the calls, really. i had a really bad case of pneumonia back in january, and i thought possibly a might have had covid-19. i am calling because of the woman that called earlier who didn't know that whether or not she had covid-19 but she seemed to think she did. about march, my doctor had me tested for antibodies and that is supposed to indicate whether or not you have had covid-19. my results came back negative. in january,very ill but i am fine now. i do not believe i had covid-19. and my other comment here is that, my problem is that the president of the united states as not been willing to set good example for the people. i know so many people who do not believe that covid-19 is real, that people nee

mr. harrison, capitalism versus socialism, conservative judges versus liberal judges, law and order versusemocratic amy harrison has been pushing graham to take a covid test before the debate tweeting i'm excited for the debate with lindsey graham but we need real leadership in this pandemic, the debate moderator and i have agreed to take a covid test prior to debating, i schedule my testing calling on senator graham to do the same. graham fired back that he will be there and tweeted i will take medical direction from actual physicians, not my political opponents. harrison is attacking graham for changing his position on filling the supreme court c. >> i was sometimes listening to senator graham and it reminds me of playing monopoly with my son, he changes the rules every times he gets. you said use my words against me and you said after the kavanaugh meeting, not the kavanaugh, after the kavanaugh hearings, in your words and your promise that no judicial nominee should be considered or approved or what have you in the last year of an election. andrew even made president trump and you said

mr. harrison's coffers? >> they hate me. this is not about mr. harrelson.is about liberals hating my guts when i stood up for kavanaugh when they tried to destroy his life. this is me trying to help mr. trump. the only good republican is the one that tries to undercut mr. trump. >> can you talk about what he's saying and why that doesn't make any sense simply because just by default he is the long-standing senator from south carolina and he has name recognition and he shouldn't have to be clawing his way from behind. talk about it. >> that's exactly right. lindsey graham is the senior senator from south carolina, he's the chairman of the judiciary committee, he's been in washington for 25 years. when he was outraising me at the beginning of this campaign he was crowing about t sending out press releases, historical moments. the moment in which more people have decided that lindsey was a part of our past and i'm part of the future and started giving us contributions, you know, he has a problem. i'm going to demonstrate something to lindsey, you can do this -

mr. harrison, you won the toss.ss, the next minute on the toss is yours. >> thank you, judy and i want to thank everyone here on the campus of allen university. >> while i brief, i hope, that is the motto of this, in south carolina, but it might as well be the theme of my entire life i am the son of a team mom. , was raised by grandparents with a fourth grade and eighth grade education. i want to yell, i went to georgetown law school. -- first in my family, i went to now i'm a candidate for united states senate. excuse me if i pinch myself. i have lived the american dream and spent my entire life adding for others to make sure they do the same. we have been divided for too long. to me folks here in south

mr. harrison, you won that toss. the next moment on the floor is yours. >> thank you. georgetown law school. -- first in my family, i went to yale,

mr. harrison. more of that break down in the new york times. jim is next in california.aller: good morning. this is jim from california. i've got three points. all of thisspent on bickering back and forth? united gothe word from our united states? office, harrisn will take over. she is not qualified to take over as vice president. host: how does that relate to last night? night, biden looked like he was sick. trump was strong. is, whenever you are attacked, you have to defend yourself. that's ridiculous. civility.ld be some it doesn't seem like there is any with all of these adults. whether it be in the senate, and the congress. it's our friends from the other side. fontana,t is jim in california. this is jim in missouri. go ahead. caller: good morning. i really appreciate the way you run the show and i appreciate c-span. i started watching the show because i couldn't take the morning shows. it was driving me nuts. last night is the same thing. just.c thing was guthrie reminded me what my dad used to say. i got nothing out of that. i probably lean toward trump. if you lo

mr. harrison to ever vote for a conservative judge you're making a mistake of high proportion. >> john heilemannlindsey's highlight from the evening. this was one of the more one-sided debates, especially when lindsey talked about democrats being nuts and jamie said, wait, we have to come together as a country. i was -- i was surprised by just how one-sided it was. >> yeah. it was pretty one-sided, joe. good morning. there was like kind of -- you can see that jamie harrison has been chomping at the bit to get into the -- on the debate stage. he has two more debates after this with lindsey graham and if the other two go the way this one went, he's in serious trouble. lindsey graham is in trouble to begin with. a race under any normal circumstances given the partisan alignments in south carolina should not have been close is not only close but harrison is ahead by most measures and has way more money right now in the closing days. it's become a national race in a lot of ways and you see in that debate and other settings graham freaking out over the way he's become -- his own race has become nation

mr. clyburn, you have a very competitive senate race in your senate. your former aide, jamie harrison a running against lindsey graham, someone you served with for 20-something years, can you give us your back of the napkin. has everybody, as the watchers know today, you know that state better than everybody. what is going on and is lindsey graham going to be knocked off? . welcome, you know, i'm so proud of jamie. as many people know, jamie came into my life as a 11th grader, there at high school. and i have not been able to get rid of him since. he's just a remarkable young man. he's run just a class act in this campaign and jamie, during that debate last saturday night, i think the rest of the country got to see what i have seen in jamie since he was a teenager. he is running a campaign that i think is going to be successful. not a single soul alive when he announced for the senate that he would be sitting here 30 days out, 48-48 and i've seen a poll that has him two points in the lead although i've seen in-- polls that have him one point behind. jamie is running a great race. i th