mr. harry thierens expressed he does not know. >> i appreciate that, ma'am. >> any other board questions? >> [inaudible] -- from the mms? >> i don't recall. >> when you were the director of the wells in the gulf of mexico, did you receive engineering bulletin's from cameron? >> i don't recall. >> did you review the audits for bp? >> no. >> so the rig you were responsible for you never reviewed any type of audits or bulletins or safety alerts from anyone? >> not that i can recall. >> any other board questions? >> mr. harry thierens, as the wells director for the gulf of mexico from 2006-2009, what were your areas of responsibility? >> i managed the engineering and operations group in the gulf of mexico, and those duties changed in that period of time. when i first came, the engineering and operations groups were dedicated to individual assets in the company. the long-term goal was to pull those together into a centralized group, which is where we finished up. >> you had engineering and operations? >> correct. >> just to make sure i understand -- so it was part of that -- who withini tha th