mr. harter, who is representing mr. trump, and mr.o is representing mr. -- actually ec, llc, in the federal case, okay? during this call, i asked point blank, mr. harter, was donald trump a party to the agreement? and let me tell what he told me. you ready? that's what he told me. and i said, i thought the phone had disconnected. i said, are you still there? and i asked him again. he didn't have an answer for me. he said, we haven't figured it out yet, to which i responded, why do you ask donald trump? they haven't figured out the next fabrication. >> how difficult -- >> i guess they're required to tell michael, you know, any legal strategy here. >> legal strategy? it's a fact. >> i don't even believe that conversation even existed. so i mean everything -- you make up your own law. you make up a lie detector test. you parade it in like you found gold. meanwhile you know it's a fraudulent lie detector test. you know it. can you at least address the galvanic skin response and the -- can you answer the question? >> yes, i'm going to answ