mr. hastings: yes. mr. sessions: is there any state that allows anyone with a concealed weapon to carry in schools or school zones? mr. hastings: mr. chairman, there are states that permit weapons at schools. florida's legislature is prepared to undertake -- mr. sessions: excuse me, i strike that. i meant not colleges, i meant elementary, junior, high schools. mr. hastings: most of us have gun-free zones and drug-free zones around our schools. but i think mrs. demings as a form chief of police really understood the necessity for this particular measure. mr. sessions: yes, sir. the word schools i took to mean not colleges. mr. hastings: i understand. well, florida also has a proposal before our legislature to allow school teachers at schools and other personnel at schools to carry guns. florida is getting just about as crazy as some of the rest of y'all's states. mr. sessions: yes, sir. reminding us that if it is against that state law, that person who would be offered the resip rocation would still have to

mr. hastings: yes? mr. sessions: is there any state that allows anyone with a concealed weapon to carry in schools or school zones? mr. hastings: mr. chairman, there are states that permit weapons at schools. florida's legislature is prepared to undertake -- mr. sessions: excuse me, i strike that. i meant not colleges, i meant elementary, junior, high schools. mr. hastings: most of us have gun-free zones and drug-free zones around our schools. but i think mrs. demings as a form chief of police really understood the necessity for this particular measure. mr. sessions: yes, sir. the word schools i took to mean not colleges. mr. hastings: i understand. well, florida also has a proposal before our legislature to allow school teachers at schools and other personnel at schools to carry guns. florida is getting just about as crazy as some of the rest of y'all's states. mr. sessions: yes, sir. reminding us that if it is against that state law, that person who would be offered the reciprocation would still have to f

mr. hastings: thank you very much, mr. speaker. i thank my friend, the gentleman from colorado, for yielding me the customary 30 minutes of debate. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. hastings: when the joint comprehensive plan of action came before congress, i made my objections very clear. i believed then as do i now that the iran deal, too quickly removed the sanctions that brought iran to the negotiating table in the first place, allowing iran to remain a nuclear threshold state. however, like it or not, the jcpoa is now law and it will be wrong to undermine it for purely political reasons. unfortunately, that is, in my opinion, what my republican colleagues are doing here today. this is not the way to handle our country's foreign policy. mr. speaker, the most important question that you need to ask yourself at this time does not have to do with the substance of the legislation this rule provides for. but rather why on earth this body is wasting what precious legi

mr. hastings: mr. speaker, this brought th closed rule toy buy the republican -- brought by the republican majority to the floor. yesterday in the rules committee i pointed that out, as well as the fact that there were 25 members of this body who offered amendments that were not made in order, significant numbers of them were germane, and they were bipartisan. we can't continue to ignore the importance of allowing for full membership to participate on behalf of their constituents. today's bill combines two bills. one, a bipartisan supported approach to strengthening background checks. the other a kiss graceful -- disgraceful handout to the powerful gun lobby and gun manufacturers. i also pointed out last night that the n.r.a. in many respects is two bodies. those at the top and the rank-and-file members. many of the members, for example, support universal background checks that we could be talking about in this easure if an amendment seeking not to have it made in order had been made in order. a month

mr. hastings: mr. chairman, most respectfully, the question i asked you is undergirted by the fact that 34 republicans, including colleagues here on the rules committee, sent speaker ryan a letter asking him to protect dreamers. do the math, mr. chairman. if the dream act would come to the floor it would pass. i ask again, do you feel as i do -- never mind all this stuff about the debate. there have been a lot of debate. children are here every day discussing the matter. we've discussed it here in this committee repeatedly asking the same question. mr. mcgovern, mr. polis, ms. slaughter, myself, members on the other side have discussed the matter. do you believe it would pass if it was on the floor? mr. sessions: i do not in its present form. mr. hastings: all right. ms. pelosi: let me -- mr. sessions: we might disagree and it's ok, chairman. >> would the gentleman yield? mr. sessions: the gentleman is recognized. >> i think perhaps mr. hastings was referring to me. i was one of the 34 that sent a lead

mr. hastings, as you and mr. nather have noted, with regard to driver's licenses, states have cooperated with each other. but it was noted here that ten states are completely unwilling to recognize the constitutional right -- constitutional right of people to travel with their firearm outside of their home state into the other state. so even if that state and every state but one has a concealed/carry permit process, that one state being vermont, and they have constitutional -- >> so you do agree -- excuse me. reclaiming my time. so you do agree that there's no state by state hotline, for example, to confirm that a permit is valid. >> it would be great if more efforts were taken to improve that. but that is not a necessary thing. wasn't necessary when driver's licenses were first recognized across state lines. >> you mean to tell me if a police officer stopped somebody and they claim they have a carry permit, that a police officer shouldn't be able to determine whether or not that is valid? >> they can determine,

mr. hastings, no. mr. polis? >> no. >> mr. chairman, aye. >> clerk will report the total, please. >> 8 yays, for ncaas. >> the motion is agreed to according to the gentleman. mr. woodall will be handling this for republicans. >> and i for the democrats. >> and ms. slaughter for democrats. before i ask the question, i'll answer it that we do not anticipate any more meetings this week. the committee is done with its work for the week. thank you very much. >> c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up this morning, washington republican congressman dan newhouse on fridays government funding deadline. in new york democratic congressman eliot engel talks about moving the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. call onditor of cq roll sexual misconduct on capitol hill. be sure to watch c-span's "washington journal" coming up at 7:00 a.m. this morning. join the discussion. documentaryvideo competition is underway. students across the country are busy at work and sharing their experience with

mr. hastings: thank you, mr. speaker. i lift from it one paragraph that says the holidays are a time to reflect on how fortunate we are and help those in need. in that vein, the congressional black caucus will not support a continuing resolution unless chip is re-authorized and fully funded for five years and community health centers are re-authorized and fully funded for two years. mr. speaker this morning in the rules committee, beginning at 8:00, i might add, we were noticed that we were going to meet last night at 10:00, but we did not meet, and then we came in early this morning. the distinguished minority leader and the minority whip, along with the leader of the hispanic caucus appeared and tayed for two and a half hours discussing the fact that we are leaving things on the table, but more specifically addressing the deferred action children's program. but let's talk about the things that we are leaving on the table. we're doing nothing about long-term flood insurance. we're doing nothing about perkins loan that wa

mrs. slaughter. judge hastings? >> no questions, mr. chairman. >> has the gentleman from colorado seek time? >> no, i don't. thank you. >> the gentleman does not seek time. does the gentleman from -- the distinguished gentleman from georgia seek time? >> i do, mr. chairman. >> the gentleman is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i wanted to point out that not only did we -- do we have a piece of bipartisan legislation here, but we have a piece of legislation on which folks genuinely and not politically disagree. i thought the ranking member's comments, trying to protect home buyers from being blindsided at the end of the year by a tax bill were very sincere. and telling that we're talking about how to protect people from losing their home and for folks who were not accustomed to buying a home, accustomed to seeing an annual tax bill. having one show up at the end of the year could absolutely blind side them. i confess, i never had crossed my mind that we would require more escrow, as a tool to prevent folks from being surprised in t

mr. session: judge hastings. mr. hastings: we have been here a very long time.i do not want to prolong it. i do want to point out that by blocking the amendment that's also by ms. lujan grisham, in many respects we're offering a cold shoulder to the young people that many of us have seen demonstrating here at the capitol, certainly in an intense way for the last two weeks. mr. chairman, we all know that this continuing resolution is the last train before the end of the year. you've already given a big time christmas present to billionaires and corporations. can't you also give a gift to the dreamers and to the majority of this house who recognize this as an urgent priority? it's been a record breaking year for closed rules. most of my constituents don't even know what closed rules are. but in this particular session of congress we have had 57 completely closed rules. that's twice the number that democrats had when we were in the majority. you don't have to end on a record breaking closed rule. you can make ms. lujan grisham's amendment in order and give the drea

mr. hastings. >> aye. >> mr. chairman. no. >> mr. chairman. >> no. three yea, nine nay, one present. >> i'm not going to offer an i want to make an observation. critical and particularly his referring of the tax measure. would seem to me, not withstanding tradition seemingly with reference to conference on one hour of our debate. many think there are members in this congress that opportunity or to speak on this measure at such a critical time. i won't offer the amendment, but we really should have done three debate. general there's no reason we could not have. i just want to make the objector we should have. the gentle thank man. amount to allow greater of time, allows more people. believe part of the strength of this committee is allowing to express their ideas and opinions. that on y agree with the floor. let me say this. remember that. i do believe it. i have tried in the past merging bunch of things that have to be done. and i do need to consider that every time. the gentleman for his consideration once again. further amendment or discussion? >>

mr. hastings was referring to me. i was one of the 34 that sent a letter to the speaker asking that we address this issue by the end of the year, absolutely. i meet with dreamers from around the country. i think i have a meeting with some in about 40 minutes. i may have to miss some of your testimony. i think if there was a bill on the floor it may receive a positive vote. there is one vote we have to keep in mind. i don't know that i remember that. he believes we need to do the right thing by them. he also made it clear he wants some things besides the dream act. a clean dream act is not something he supports. he wants other things so we can prevent these young people and people like them from being put in this position in the future. it may be true that a clean dream act would passment. i don't know that it would pass in the white house. that is one vote we absolutely need. in my estimation this is an issue that is very important. it really is. we have really one shot at getting it done. i want to make sure and i th

mr. hastings pointed out finding ourselves in this particular spot where nobody wants to be. so it is frustrating, even though we've had successes, it's frustrating where we are at this point. i'm hopeful that we can get this done in the next couple days and do it as responsible a way as possible. certainly the defense of our country is primary responsibility that we must -- we must respond to but at this point i just want to say express my appreciation to the members of the appropriations committee for doing the work necessary and also express my frustration with our colleagues in the senate and my hope that we can get this done if a timely manner that satisfies the needs of our country but for now mr. chairman, i'll yield back. >> thank you very much. i appreciate the gentleman's support for the gentlemen that are before us. the gentleman from colorado. >> i have no questions for the panel. i'll be testifying later about my amendments. >> thank you very much. the gentleman from windsor, colorado, mr. buck. the gentlewoman from the state of wyoming. >> thank you very much, m

mr. hastings pointed out finding ourselves in this particular spot where nobody wants to be. so it is frustrating, even though we've had successes, it's frustrating where we are at this point. i'm hopeful that we can get this done in the next couple days and do it as responsible a way as possible. certainly the defense of our country is primary responsibility that we must -- we must respond to but at this point i just want to say express my appreciation to the members of the appropriations committee for doing the work necessary and also express my frustration with our colleagues in the senate and my hope that we can get this done if a timely manner that satisfies the needs of our country but for now mr. chairman, i'll yield back. >> thank you very much. i appreciate the gentleman's support for the gentlemen that are before us. the gentleman from colorado. >> i have no questions for the panel. i'll be testifying later about my amendments. >> thank you very much. the gentleman from windsor, colorado, mr. buck. the gentlewoman from the state of wyoming. >> i want to echo some th

mr. hastings: mr. speaker, on yesterday i witnessed as did all of us the jubilation of my friends, the for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? majority, in passing the tax cut measure that had been advocated as tax reform for a substantial period of time. but finally they did admit it was a tax cut. i rise here today just to lay down a marker. i have said as have many of my colleagues that what we witnessed is the beginning of what ultimately will allow for us to address the entitlements in this country. many of us no that the deficit that the tax cuts create are going to allow some time during the course of next year or shortly after the election that we begin discussioning medicare and medicaid. i think that's a mistake and i wanted that to be recognized. for eaker pro tempore: what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina seek recognition? for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina seek recognition? does the gentleman seek unanimous consent? without obje

mr. neil will help me with this -- i pointed to the cornyn gimmick. there are other gimmicks in this measure? >> judge hastings, the mlp -- >> i was talking to mr. neil. >> there are series of issues that were taken up after the conference committee. >> after the conference committee. >> after, and during the conference committee, after the ways and means committee actually passed out of bill and after the senate finance committee passed on the bill. you seek what happened in the case of senator rubio, he city ford additional money. went to 13 hundred the child tax credit and i understand the idea of trying to figure out how to get to a majority but let's not make it sound as though this process was sanitized. >> were the llcs a part of the regular conference or did they -- >> not that it recall. >> came afterwards. do remember all of that business before about the nebraska corn husker buyback? those were gimmicks and obviously were pointed to. my friend seemed to forget that along the way. mr. brady, you were going to say? >> the mlp provision was added in senate before it went to the floor, was voted on. tha

mr. neil will help me with this -- i pointed to the cornyn gimmick. there are other gimmicks in this measure? >> judge hastings, the mlp -- >> i was talking to mr. neil. >> there are series of issues that were taken up after the conference committee. >> after the conference committee. >> after, and during the conference committee, after the ways and means committee actually passed out of bill and after the senate finance committee passed on the bill. you seek what happened in the case of senator rubio, he city ford additional money. went to 13 hundred the child tax credit and i understand the idea of trying to figure out how to get to a majority but let's not make it sound as though this process was sanitized. >> were the llcs a part of the regular conference or did they -- >> not that it recall. >> came afterwards. do remember all of that business before about the nebraska corn husker buyback? those were gimmicks and obviously were pointed to. my friend seemed to forget that along the way. mr. brady, you were going to say? >> the mlp provision was added in senate before it went to the floor, was voted on. tha

tonight -- ar -- aren't these just a textbook case of what happens when you legislate with reckless haste? mr. sanders: absolutely. it's not only that mistakes are made. it's that when you don't open the doors to the american people , to economists, to mayors, to governors, to business people, to leaders of the labor movement to see what do you want to see impacts reform? when you don't do that and when you conduct your business behind closed doors, not only do you end up with legislation that represents the needs of the billionaire class, but you also make a number of mistakes, and in that regard, i would tell my friend that this afternoon, the senate parliamentarian advised that certain provisions of the republican tax legislation violate the byrd rule, including a provision allowing for the use of 529 savings accounts for home-schooling expenses, the short tie over tax cuts and jobs act, and part of the criteria used to determine whether the endowments of private universities are subject to the legislation's new excise tax. these provisions may be struck from the conference report absent 6

haste they are already too late. the majority of the american people already say this bill is a deceitful sham. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: mr. speaker, i'm very proud to yield two minutes to the gentleman from illinois and chairman of the tax policy subcommittee, mr. roskam. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for two minutes. mr. roskam: thank you, mr. speaker, and thank you, mr. chairman, for yielding. we've heard some strong language for the past couple of minutes. this has been described as ideology, and now deceit. where is the deceit? the deceit is in the assumption that we can live with the status quo, mr. speaker. the deceit is a blindness to the recognition that we have a tax code that is literallydy solving underneath us -- literally desolving underneath us. and this congress has an opportunity to do something transformational. and i propose be along with my colleagues, to be transformational. and opportunistic. there's a lot of discussion in the subtext of this about class envy and opportunity and so forth. here's what i know. it is the status quo that is serving the few.

haste they are already too late. the majority of the american people already say this bill is a deceitful sham. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. brady: mr. speaker, i'm very proud to yield two minutes to the gentleman from illinois and chairman of the tax policy subcommittee, mr. roskam. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from illinois is recognized for two minutes. mr. roskam: thank you, mr. speaker, and thank you, mr. chairman, for yielding. we've heard some strong language for the past couple of minutes. this has been described as ideology, and now deceit. where is the deceit? the deceit is in the assumption that we can live with the status quo, mr. speaker. the deceit is a blindness to the recognition that we have a tax code that is literallydy solving underneath us -- literally desolving underneath us. and this congress has an opportunity to do something transformational. and i propose be along with my colleagues, to be transformational. and opportunistic. there's a lot of discussion in the subtext of this about class envy and opportunity and so forth. here's what i know. it is the status quo that is serving the few.