. >> i'm sorry, mr. healy is here. >> i'm beginning to sound like peter witt. i started out as a -- i started out as an inter center person, negotiating in the original pilot plan. i'm a very moderate and practical individual and the city did a great thing a couple of years ago when it didn't do that pilot plan. all of the members of community came together, regardless of their political leanings and made a plan that benefited everybody. and you people have basically taken that plan and thrown it in the trash. we had -- you mentioned transparency. there used to be tranceparency a couple of years ago there was transparency and now you are having meetings without any involvement of the cab drivers. you are judging by reading mr. -- or director's heinicke mail. you had the plan you put into effect two weeks ago. you had it without ever discussing it with the person you put it together behind closed doors and i believe in violation of the sunshine ordinance. i believe that you violated your own rules. you violated the rules of the city and you violated the rules of