he is inferring if there are charges against mr. heene then mrs. heene should not be charged. th us tonight, not only robert thomas, richard heene's former researcher, his colleague, buts are -- but also his attorney, well known in her region. linda lee is joining us. everyone -- >> hi, nancy. >> linda, i want to thank you for being with us. i will make it very clear, linda no one suspects your client of any wrongdoing. i'm grateful to the two of you being with us. we'll all be right back. >>> to tonight's safety tip. nearly 800,000 children reported missing each year. many kidnapped going to and from school. your child should travel with at least one other person. have a safe route to walk. avoid alleys, stairwells, shortcuts. children at school bus stops must be supervised. know where registered sex offenders are located. your child must avoid walking near their home. they must. children over 10 should have a cell phone for emergencies. teach them how to react to threats by telling them to run, scream or yell for help. for more information, please go to klaaskids.org. >>> tha

then mrs. heene should not be charged. h us tonight, not only robert thomas richard heene's former researcher his colleague, but also his attorney, well known in her region. linda lee is joining us. everyone -- >> hi, nancy. >> linda, i want to thank you for being with us. i will make it very clear, linda, no one suspects your client of any wrongdoing. i'm very grateful for the two of you being with us. we'll all be right back. >>> to tonight's safety tip. nearly 800,000 children reported missing every year. many kidnapped going to and from school. your child should travel with at least one other person. have a safe route to walk. avoid alleys, stairwells, shortcuts. children at school bus stops must be supervised. know where registered sex offenders are located. your child must avoid walking near their home. they must. children 10 and over should have a cell phone for emergencies. teach them how to react to threats by telling them to run, scream or call for help. for more information, please go to klaaskids.org. >>> that l

. >> mr. heene voluntarily came in here under the pretext of we were going to return his aircraft to him. unbeknownst to him, at the same time the minute he hit the door here, we had investigators prepared to go to the house and talk to mrs. heene and try to gain her cooperation as well as conduct interviews with her and the children. >> so, the sheriff also wanted to pursue separate lie detector tests but by law isn't allowed to say exactly what took place. >> interesting. investigators also said there's no way 6-year-old falcon was in the balloon. they've been looking scientifically at it. >> 20 feet in diameter, four, five feet tall. when this started last thursday, the sheriff's department called a balloon expert at colorado state university. given the dimensions i just mentioned that heene provided at the time, the balloon could have carried the 37-pound boy. once the balloon landed, they found out it weighs 18 pounds more than heene said. they say that means iteled not have been able to lift o

>> between the employee and mr. heene. >> you know, i'm really not sure how long they were talking. but you know, one of the things that i think is absolutely fascinating that we heard today is that this balloon, everybody has seen it, when you take a 37-pound boy, they had a physics professor come in and take a look at it. they said there is absolutely no way it could have even lifted off the ground. so that's another compelling element to this bizarre case. >> as it turns out, those conversations about this stunt took place last march. that's how long this has allegedly been in the planning. >>> it was last seen 20 minutes ago? >> probably. i'm losing track of time. so yeah. >> okay. so there's no electronics on it. there's no tracking device, right? >> no. no. i don't know whether it's possible you guys could detect the electricity that it emits. but every five minutes it comes on for one minute, and it emits a million volts on the outer skin. and if he takes a ride in it, he could get electrocuted. >> straight out to

what, if anything, did mr. heeneto be afraid, your two little girls? >> well, they watched him verbally throw fits and throw things at us. he was like a master of mental warfare. he put us down, hollered at us a lot. he pushed me one time over a couch and then flipped the couch with me and the children on it, threw things at me, and sometimes you know, the things would not hit me but hit them. i filed a police report in lake arrowhead, california. and that was the night he flipped us over the couch and flipped the couch and he left marks on me from throwing things. >> with me is patty. this is heene's ex-wife. giving a little insight to their family life. out to the lines. tamara in texas. hi, dear. >> caller: hi. >> what's your question? >> caller: first of all, let me tell you, god bless your family. god bless your twins. and they're just adorable. >> and they're almost 2. >> caller: i know it. >> it went by just like that. >> caller: but with this heene family, nancy, shouldn't there be somebody, cpa or some kind

. >> mr. heene voluntarily came in here under the pretext of, we were going to return his aircraft to him. unbeknownst to him at the same time, the minute he hit the door here, we had investigators prepare to go to the house and talk to ms. heene and try to gain her cooperation as well as conduct interviews with her and the children. >> now, the heene's attorney also agreed to lie detector tests and did take them, but the sheriff has not told them if they passed or not, robin. >> so investigators also say there's no way that little 6-year-old falcon could have been in the balloon. now they're talking science, i guess. >> they are. dg calculations. when it started the sheriff's department called a balloon expert at colorado university. given the dimensions provided at the time, he said the balloon would have been able to carry the 37-pound boy. once it landed they found out the balloon agos 18 pounds more than heene originally said. experts say that means it would not have been able to lift off with

. >> mr. heeneoluntarily came in here under the pretext of we were going to return his aircraft to him. unbeknownst to him at the same time the minute he hit the door here, we had investigators prepared to go to the house, and talk to mrs. heene and try to gain her cooperation as well as conduct interviews with her and the children. >> there you go. again, good investigative techniques. with all that said, obviously we had drama last week, as we watched it unfold. big ratings for everyone who covered it. and people are still interested in the story. let's go over to stuart bra zell, a reality show casting agent. do these folks have a future here, or not, stuart? what do you see for them? that's what they want, whether they get convicted of felonies or not, will someone give them a shot? >> you know, unfortunately the amount of publicity they got on thursday was astounding. richard heene basically held the world hostage. everyone was riveted to their televisions. i think we have a case of someone who

. >> mr. heeneoluntarily came in here under the pretext of we were going to return his aircraft to him. unbeknownst to him at the same time the minute he hit the door here, we had investigators prepared to go to the house and to talk to mrs. heene and try to get her corporation as well as conduct interviews with her and the children. >> the sheriff says they also have scientific proof that the boy was never inside the balloon. it was 18 pounds heavier that heene originally told them. investigator says a balloon expert told him at that weight, it could not have taken off with the boy on board. jim spellman from our sister network cnn got a closer look at how this balloon was made. >> from a distance, from the helicopter's cameras, it looked like a really kind of sophisticated weather balloon. but if you look up close here, it looks like aluminum foil. can you see scotch tape holding it together. here's a little duct tape. it looks like a thin frame of thin wood here. if you come around on the inside

>> between the employee and mr. heene? >> reporter: you know, i'm really not sure how long they were talking. but, you know one of the things that i think is absolutely fascinating that we heard today is that this balloon, everybody has seen it when you take a 37-pound boy, they had a physics professor come and take a look at it they said there is absolutely no way it could have even lifted off the ground. >> as it turns out, those conversations about this stunt took place last march. that's how long this has allegedly been in the planning. d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d

as to the sheriff, he's not allowed to break the law just because mr. heene did.ave the statute here. the information is confidential and shall not be released to the public. >> he didn't release information about the family. >> you're not supposed to give the name of the family being investigated. >> 19 -- whatever, penny, richard heene put his family out there in front of the media. he's put his family in danger, before. >> i agree. he's not allowed to violate the law. >> the sheriff is not violating the law. richard heene, they ought to come after richard heene, the sheriff ought to come after him, both guns blazing and make him pay back every cent that was spent. >> i don't disagree with you. the sheriff violated the statute. >> nothing is going to lap to the sheriff. >> we'll see what the special investigator says about this. how long is it going to take of the special investigation of the sheriff? >> they think about two weeks. this is the neighboring county, boulder d.a. that is investigating this. >> when do we expect charges to be brought against the heen

>> between the employee and mr. heeneorter: you know, i'm really not sure how long they were talking. but, you know, one of the things that i think is absolutely fascinating that we heard today, is that this balloon, everybody has seen it, when you take a 37-pound boy, they had a physics professor come and take a look at it, they said there is absolutely no way it could have even lifted off the ground. that's another compelling element to this bizarre case. >> as it turns out, those conversations about this stunt took place last march. that's how long this has allegedly been in the planning. >>> university of connecticut is mourning a star football player, soon-to-be dad. >> it all started around 12:30 sunday morning when someone pulled a fire alarm in the "u" forcing the crowd of more than 300 people, uconn students and others, outside. uconn police tell me that's when a fight started between the two groups, and 20-year-old howard and one other were stabbed multiple times. >> one of the victims who was stabbed has actual

>> between the employee and mr. heene>> reporter: you know, i really am not sure how long they were talking, but you know, one of the things i think is absolutely fascinating that we heard today is that this balloon, everybody has seen it, when you take a 37-pound boy, they had a physics professor come in and take a look at it. they said it's absolutely no way it could have lifted off the ground. another compelling moment to this bizarre case. >> as it turns out, those conversations about this stunt took place last march. this is how long this has allegedly been in the planning. >>> straight out to special guest joining us, mary schiavo, former u.s. department of transportation inspector general, also an aviation attorney. mary, thank you for being with us. the police, the sheriffs, national guard, volunteers, faa, the airport closed down, the commercial carriers. everybody cooperated to try to find this boy and save his life. the whole time the family allegedly did this as a stunt. >> that's right. and the faa certainly

what, if anything, did mr. heenewell, they watched him verbally throw fits and throw things at us. he was like a master of mental warfare. he put us down, hollered at us a lot. he pushed me one time over a couch and then flipped the couch with me and the children on it, threw things at me, and sometimes you know, the things would not hit me but hit them. i filed a police report in lake arrowhead, california. and that was the night he flipped us over the couch and flipped the couch and he left marks on me from throwing things. >> with me is patty. this is heene's ex-wife. giving a little insight to their family life. out to the lines. tamara in texas. hi, dear. >> caller: hi. >> what's your question? >> caller: first of all, let me tell you, god bless your family. god bless your twins. and they're just adorable. >> and they're almost 2. >> caller: i know it. >> it went by just like that. >> caller: but with this heene family, nancy, shouldn't there be somebody, cpa or some kind of, you know -- these kids are going to

at 11:22, mrs. heene called 911. >> he's been missing for about 20 minutes? >> yeah. >> 911 was the third call the family made. >> the first call was to the faa and that the segcond call was made to 9 news with the belief they had a helicopter that might be able to assist and that sometimes afterwards they called 911. >> the faa has opened an investigation into the incident, and child protective services has been called. though the sheriff today says he's asked them not to speak with the family until authorities have had a chance to interview the heenes again. so why does law enforcement want to talk to them again? that comment to wolf blitzer last night. >> clearly that has raised everybody's level of skepticism again, and we feel it's incumbent on us as an agency to go back to the family. >> erica hill, cnn, new york. >>> the governor of louisiana has joined in the outrage over a jult of the peace who refused to marry an interracial couple. he's calling for bardwell's immediate dismissal. it was called an example of ugly b bigotry and has been asked to resi

as to the sheriff, he's not allowed to break the law just because mr. heene did.e. it clearly says the identifying information is confidential and shall not be released to the public. >> he didn't release information about the family. >> you're not supposed to give the name of the family being investigated. kogt according to the statute 19 -- >> 19 -- whatever, penny, richard heene put his family out there in front of the media. he's put his family in danger, before. >> i agree. he's not allowed to violate the law. neither is the sheriff. >> the sheriff is not violating the law. richard heene, they ought to come after richard heene, the sheriff ought to come after him, both guns blazing and make him pay back every cent that was spent. >> i don't disagree with you. the sheriff violated the statute. he's not allowed to do that, either. >> nothing is going to happen to the sheriff. >> we'll see what the special investigator says about this. how long is it going to take of the special investigation of the sheriff? >> they think about two weeks. this is the neighboring

neighbors confirm that mr. heene, richard heene was something of a self-proclaimed scientist, inventor. that's where they get this balloon. just spoke with the spokesperson for the larimer county sheriff's office. she said it was never intended to carry anybody, even someone as small as 6-year-old falcon. if he did get in the balloon, he likely climbed into the battery compartment which has apply wood bottom. very loosely fit together. definitely not something meant for travel. also, one other note to make. the larimer county sheriff's office is going to restage from here. a lot of traffic has accrued. a lot of news crews, along with a lot of neighbors. what it looks like those who know the family members, they've come by, gotten near the police tape. they, like us, don't have really many answers of where falcon can be. search crews are all over the place. and the larimer county sheriff's office is still questioning neighbors. those who took pictures of the balloon as it sailed past, hopefully trying to get a better

. >> you say it's a shame and it is mr. heene who perhaps is more at fault here. >> caller: yes. >> moving on to andrea in ithaca. what do you think about the kids and the fact he was doing this perhaps for reality tv stardom? >> caller: that could be the worst crime here, and out of so many. the child's honesty to cnn which formally began the hoax meltdown and didn't publicly manifest until he vomited on the two next day's morning shows, only him, and his family's reaction to it. that is a known symptom of fear of repeated child abuse. and that would be the worst crime here. hopefully child protective services will be diligent and immediate in their investigation, too. >> right. they have been called, from what i understand, andrea. thank you. sam in mississippi, do you agree? what do you think about the children as part of this? >> caller: well, i think that the media plays a greater role in putting these things on, and going after the bucks, but america as society should pay more attention to a hoax that causes lives, like the