mr. helfun and talking to him -- >> in your district. >> in my district, right. i wanted to say a few things for the record that we talked about, and i think it is important that it be noted that our retirement fund has grown over the last number of years. many city employees are here, including ourselves. our number one responsibility is to grow that fund so we are fully funded for those that retire. we have that feduciary responsibility. we are 90% funded for all of our retir retirees. so we're doing exceedingly well. one of the things that has frustrated me, and i see some of the advocates here for fossel fuel, we had the conversations, passed the resolutions, and then the response has been, if we don't invest, other funds will. i like the example of the norwegian fund. but what are some of the concrete steps that we can take when staff say, if we don't, others will invest in that fund? >> i guess the thing that allowed me to say yes, that i'd consider this, is the progress that we've made in e.s.g., because out of that platform, basically, you have an investm