mr. hepner again, please. a lot of the upcoming rehabs, as we've called them, that the housing bond is going to pay for, are hope s.f. projects. i'm just wondering if you believe any of those, what might be full demolitions will be affected. >> i think it's a good question. if they're like-for-like replacements and actually rehabilitating housing stock that needs to be rehabilitated, that's not in the crosshairs of this legislation. >> commissioner hillis. >> just a question for planning staff on mergers and conversions. it's my sense that we've seen less and less of these, because of the controls we've put in place. do you have any data? i know this ordinance goes into some detail on changing definitions and adding additional controls to that. but do you have data on how many vergers or conversions we've seen or approved or disapproved? because i don't recall. >> sure. >> or at least i recall ra dwindling number. >> we don't have data in preparation for the hearing. we do anticipate we'll pull together as muc

mr. hepner, up to share a few images. i realize this is a departure from asking questions, but if mr. hepner, if you could show us what they do at baggage claim, where a disembarking passenger at j.f.k. goes, and they get this image. and to those of you in the industry who give a thumbs down, i hope you'll change your mind and give a thumbs up. everybody but one person from the industry is giving a thumbs up, so i feel like we've made progress. this is what the inside of j.f.k. looks like. big, yellow and black advertisements. they don't say t.n.c., they don't say uber, they say taxi, that way. all right. next image, please. and there's what happens when you walk out of the terminal. so i am, in addition to virtual queueing, going to ask s.f.o. about that. don't worry, this is not going to be like renaming one of your terminals. miss toran, come back up. >> and that was great. we would like to look to new york as a model we can use. >> chair peskin: thank you for that. i really appreciated seeing it at a global level. in your presentation, you had indicated that you had reduced fees to

mr. hepner, could see if he can -- to see if he can go down the hallway and get the president of the board and see if he can assign another member so we don't lose our quorum, which is two people. normally, what we'd do in this is limit public comment to one minute, which is not okay. so i'm going to do two minutes of public comment, and if any members of this panel want to ask questions, which i'm going to have questions, we can go beyond two minutes. >> your interest and your concern for your industry is very, very, very appreciated. we're going to need your help. i guess the biggest two points that i want to talk about are the fact that this industry, like many others, is coin operated, so if you follow the money, you know how people are going to react. >> chair peskin: that's why they all go to the airport. >> correct. what we told the m.t.a. did happen in my opinion. the pre-k medallions that are banned from the airport are all but sitting. that's 185 less medallions in the city or in circulation to serve the city and to serve the airport. in addition, he syou saw a 16% decrease in ci

mr. hepner acknowledged that he did not understand the case studies presented. i urge you to reject this legislation in its entirety. instead as i mentioned, i hope that these -- the departments under these boards will work together to craft a more targeted policy with much more sustainable outcomes. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, president and commissioner melgar, president and commissioners. my name is ross, i'm an architect. i'm the current chair of the a.a.a. public policy committee and i lived in san francisco for 23 years. i wouldn't be standing here today if this legislation were in place when i moved here. i built my first house myself over a period of many yearswork the benefit of many permits. because it was all i could afford and all i could do. this law would have prohibited my presence today. this is an aspirational piece of legislation. and we all agree that there are holes in the definitions of demolition. beyond that it goes far -- greater with the aspirations and it suffers from a tremendous amount of

mr. hepner. so the -- i wanted to understand the numbers for the conditions, under which mergers -- i mean, so the 1200 square feet average size or existing units within 300 radius. where did those numbers come from? >> i believe that was based on recommendations from the mayor's office of housing, in the context of the construction of affordable housing. i might be misremembering that. but 1200 is not an entirely arbitrary number. if we were here to discuss what the appropriate size is, i would be very, very pleased. because that's a discussion that i think is worth having. but that number is not pulled from thin air. i think it was a recommendation for a two bedroom or three bedroom sized apartment, under m.o.h. standards. >> so an average of two or three bedrooms. >> yeah. it was one or the other was where the 1200 came from. >> help me just understand what the thinking was about it. because families come in all shapes and sizes. and the way we use residential space, a lot of times has to do w