mr. herisy received help in making, distributing a movie and part of that was in consideration of them giving you which resulted in $150 million for your fund, these you gave them something in order for them to give you and that's called a kick back or bribe. and that's the problem. >> well, there's a couple of potential issues. one is simply the hiring of hank morris which i just told you i plead and was told by my lawyers was legal then, legal now and done properly. the second you just raised is the question of whether we at quadrangle or myself individually did anything to help this movie get made that influenced the outcome of the investment decision by new york state. i would say one, did i introduce steve to a company that quadrangle controlled to see if there was a potential dvd distribution deal, yes, i did. two, did i ever tell that company to distribute dvd or insisted they distribute. no, they made that decision entirely on their in. and third there's not a scintilla of evidence including in hank morris' plea bargain today that that movie had anything to do with, anything to do in