mr. herrera on tuesday and he agrees that's a position that is untenuous for his office. he has no problem being the legal counsel but he understands that he hasn't been acting as such at all, and has made it very clear to me that he doesn't -- it's up to us, the board to choose our true legal counsel, and he's willing to be that no problem, but if he is he's going to act as such and be essentially primary. for example choosing all -- the other firms, the sub firms and directing them he would be responsible and i have talked to andrew sharltz at shoop and hail and he he is also. >> >> hailey and he is perfectly willing to be the true counsel and understands that the scope of general counsel would include choosing and directing other firms to do the specialty work, so we're going to have to make a decision here and each of these -- both san francisco city attorneys made it clear they want off if they're not completely on, and the shoop and hailey firm is perfectly willing to be appointed in their stead if that's what we want, so i think at some point in the next few meetin