mr. hershman you heard the testimony of mr. flynn who indicated that, as i would summarize his testimony, he's involved in the domestic side of the issues that were involved the u.s. soccer federation. and i think his testimony would be -- would reflect that he and his colleagues, no one reported to him any concerns or knowledge of any corruption, bribery, racketeering. i couldn't -- i think his testimony would suggest that he had no -- he was ub aware -- unaware of the activity that led to the indictment -- the indictments. that suggests to me that -- and i don't know what mr. flynn does, butez the ceo -- but he is the ceo. >> but what needs to change structurally that this behavior would be known by the u.s. soccer federation. what is missing? >> thank you, mr. chairman for that question. i think you have to understand the nature of the beast. fifa is like no other organization that i've had an opportunity to consult with on issues related to governance and compliance. i want to correct a state that mr. bery said earlier. fif

mr. michael hershman. the president and ceo of the fairfax group, member of fifa's independent governance committee. mr. barry, advocacy director for the middle east north africa amnesty international. he will testify about findings of the may 15, 2015 amnesty report regarding working conditions. and finally mr. andrew jennings who's traveled perhaps the furthest to join us. he's an investigative writer and filmmaker credited with blowing cover on fifa scandal. we will start with mr. flynn. mr. flynn, please testify. >> thank you, senator. on behalf of the united states soccer federation i would like to thank senator moran, senator blumenthal, senator from my home state of missouri and other members of this committee for giving soccer to appear today and answer questions you may have. on behalf of our womens national team, i would like to also thank president and mrs. obama, vice president and dr. biden, distinguished members of this subcommittee, your senate and house colleagues and the tens of millions of

mr. hershman:? what needs to transpire, today or tomorrow that would give you hope that the corruption that you have described would be resolved internally within fifa? perhaps your answer depending on your testimony is that fifa has no future? is that different than what mr. hershman: is saying? >> fifa has to be dissolved. they don't want reform. we use words like reform, they think bully. they get arrested, i would just like to come back to concacaf because i am quite astonished at what i hear. reform, they have had one. we are on the third one i think. when mr. warner was taken out think -- thanks goodness, they had reform. they had reform meetings and they brought into men, jeffrey webb from cayman and a few years the fbi said, can you step this way please sir. now they are doing this again. who is this, horace burrell? a man who put his girlfriend in to vote at the fifa conference in 1998? they are so corrupt. the united states federation has been cowardly, because little peter jenkins, was it

mr. michael hershman, mr. hershman is the president and ceo of the fairfax group, member of fifa indiana's conference committee. mr. sunjeev bery advocacy director for the middle east and north africa, amnesty international your cable testified about findings of may 2015 amnesty international report regarding working conditions and finally mr. andrew jennings who it was traveled perhaps the furthest to join us. he is an investigative writer and filmmaker, credited with blowing the cover on the fifa scandal. mr. flynn, please testify. >> thank you senator. our behalf of united states soccer federation i would like to thank senator moran, senator blumenthal, senator blunt, senator mccaskill and other members of this subcommittee for giving your soccer the opportunity to appear today and into question you may have. our behalf of our women's national team would like to also thank president and mrs. obama, vice president and dr. biden, distinguished members of this subcommittee, justin and house colleagues at the mi

mr. michael hershman. mr. barry advocacy director for the middle east north africa amnesty international. he will testify about findings of the may 15 2015 amnesty report regarding working conditions. and finally mr. andrew jennings who's traveled perhaps the furthest to join us. he's an investigative writer and filmmaker credited with blowing cover on fifa scandal. we will start with mr. flynn. mr. flynn please testify. >> thank you, senator. on behalf of the united states soccer federation i would like to thank senator moran senator blumenthal, senator from my home state of missouri and other members of this committee for giving soccer to appear today and answer questions you may have. on behalf of our womens national team, i would like to also thank president and mrs. obama vice president and dr. biden, distinguished members of this subcommittee, your senate and house colleagues and the tens of millions of fans in the united states including the largest television audience ever to watch a soccer match in th

mr. michael hershman. e president and ceo of the fairfax group, member of fifa's independent governance committee. mr. barry, advocacy director for the middle east north africa amnesty international. he will testify about findings of the may 15, 2015 amnesty report regarding working conditions. and finally mr. andrew jennings who's traveled perhaps the furthest to join us. he's an investigative writer and filmmaker credited with blowing cover on fifa scandal. we will start with mr. flynn. mr. flynn, please testify. >> thank you, senator. on behalf of the united states soccer federation i would like to thank senator moran, senator blumenthal, senator from my home state of missouri and other members of this committee for giving soccer to appear today and answer questions you may have. on behalf of our womens national team, i would like to also thank president and mrs. obama, vice president and dr. biden, distinguished members of this subcommittee, your senate and house colleagues and the tens of millions of f

mr. hershman, you said that members of fifa's executive committee should disclose their salaries, i believe? >> that's correct. >> mr. gilotti is on fifa's executive committee. mr. flynn, do you agree he should disclose his earnings? >> i believe that we have pushed for change on that and i believe that u.s. soccer and we would support that, yes. >> actually, if i might interrupt, senator. mr. gilotti, before he was appointed to the executive committee, he served with me on the independent governance committee, and he voted in favor of our recommendation for compensation transparency. >> can we expect that will happen then, mr. flynn? >> we'll do everything we can within our power of the united states soccer federation. ultimately i believe that's going it be a -- to be a fifa executive committee vote. >> when will fifa make that decision? >> i don't know the answer to that. be more than happy to follow up and get you that. >> i would appreciate it. mr. bery, can you tell the committee what more you think fifa can do, very specifically and directly to stop human rights abuses including huma