mr. hinson, 10 feet away.side this kind of cave of debris, already my uniform is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately.tou can. >> he told me immediately he was on a lien that had been hijacked. -- on a plane that had been hijacked. he gave me a few details and told me to call the au

mr. hinson, 10 feet away.side this kind of cave of debris, already my uniform is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately. >> the white house is being evacuated that comes from one of our fox producers in washington. the white house is being evacuated. the pentagon as well. >> pack up a

mr. hinson, 10 feet away.side this kind of cave of debris, already my uniform is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately. >> the white house is being evacuated that comes from one of our fox producers in washington. the white house is being evacuated. the pentagon as well. >> pack up a

mr. hinson, 10 feet away.side this kind of cave of debris, already my uniform is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately. >> the white house is being evacuated that comes from one of our fox producers in washington. the white house is being evacuated. the pentagon as well. >> pack up a

mr. hinson, 10 feet away.form is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately. >> the white house is being evacuated that comes from one of our fox producers in washington. the white house is being evacuated. the pentagon as well. >> pack up and go plane was just hijacked 20 minutes south o

mr. hinson, 10 feet away.side this kind of cave of debris, already my uniform is starting to melt, my shoes are starting to melt. i'm really eager for him to get out of there and go. he says he can't budge. out of desperation, i laid on my back under him and put my feet up on the debris over his head and i leg pressed, as hard as i could. >> me pushing with my back against this pile and him pushing up with his legs he managed to get most of the debris up to extricate himself from this huge pile of rubble that pinned him to his desk. >> the total thing took 30 minutes. i didn't think i had much time left when the rescue team came. >> somebody was still up in there. we couldn't get everybody out. >> my boss didn't make it. >> second -- >> d.c. fire going to plan e. emergency plan requires all off-duty personnel to report back to stations immediately. >> the white house is being evacuated that comes from one of our fox producers in washington. the white house is being evacuated. the pentagon as well. >> pack up a

mr. myler said those points need to be discussed. be effectively -- one was irrelevant. the other was the essence given to the committee previously by ms. hinsont clear he thought that was his account that he knew. he said that leaves only one issue to be dealt with here today. that is the documents that originally one of them was the e-mail, and he says that's the reason we're here to answer questions about that. the reason not, we did not underestimate this procedure, so -- >> do you regard them existence of the e-mail as evidence that phone hacking was taking place? >> i said that to the committee on the last occasion. that was the first piece of evidence we have seen that it went beyond. >> right. given that it was so significant and, clearly it must have been large in conversation with james murdoch. >> it was the reason that we had settled the case together to settle the case we had to explain the case to mr. murdoch and get his authority to settle. so essentially it was discussed by, i cannot remember the details of the confirmation, and there is a note on a. conversation lasted quite a short predict everything probably less than 15 min