mr. hogan, it's great to have someone who has experience, not just talk about the importance of training but actually has undergone it. i think that that voice is very important. unfortunately, we can only support one person to come out of this committee. i wish we had more seats. and the variety of experiences and perspective that you all bring are very, very important to the police commission. i hope they will at least engage all of you on public safety issues and issues with our sfpd. i have recently gotten to know julius turman and i just want to say, having talked to many folks that are supporting you, really impressed by both your leadership and experience and your knowledge around the work. we share many of the same principles and i know that you will serve as a great commissioner. i have a longer relationship with mr. waggoner, who also equally has shown a lot of leadership around many of the issues that are important to me, sharing many of the same principles as myself. and also having

mr. philip hogan. if you could talk about your experience, your background, your interest for serving and dino the questions i will be asking you as well. >> my name is phil upload in, i was born in nebraska. my father is from lebanon and my mother is from ireland and france. . i have been involved in government for almost 40 years, i work for the city county and state government in nebraska and i was a police officer and i made sheriff at 18. i've worked with training with law enforcement schools and i was appointed by the mayor in 2008 to be on the san francisco advisory board and shortly after that i went to teach a couple of classes at the academy here in san francisco. i'm on the board of directors with the -- association. i am a member of the russian hill association. we are doing a fund-raiser for scholarships. i know what a police officer does when it does on the uniform. i have been to natomas classes for hoarding and collecting which is part of a mental illness. i deal with that in my buildin

mr. biel is here and what a day at the u.s. open. >> pretty remarkable what is going on. nicholas never did it. neither did hoganelroy 11 under at the u.s. open. lowest 36 hole score in the history of the event. he was 7 under 65 yesterday. on fire again toda today. here's second shot on the par 4. he lands it high above the hole. think it will stick there. no. it spins back. rolling and rolling and rolling and this is going to end up being an eagle. dropping him to continue under. then on 17 birdie putt 13 under. lowest anybody has ever been at any open. double bege 18. finished at main us 11 after 66. everybody chasing him now. yang big bender on 9. slide in the back door. 69 for yang. 5 under. the putt of the day. this is crazy from palmer on 17. talk about taking the scenic route. this isÑi dead center for birdie. palmer 1 under 317 when play was suspended as we show you the leader board. mc elroy 22 years old has 6 stroke lead. cluster of 5 at 2 under. mickelson struggling. one over. this open is mc elroy's to lose. >> it has been 2 very, very good days of golf. i put my snevl a great position going into th