in 1993 the prior owner was denied a liquor permit and mr. hogan was denied but he continued to operate. without a strong set of conditions vicinities the zoning regulations. expensive conditions are required in order to make the special finding in code 145.2 when read in addition to this the commission shall find the activity is comparable with surrounding used to the operation of the design area that doesn't effect the privacy of the activity in the activity area it doesn't disrupt the neighborhood. in the draft motion those are high standards to meet and they've not been met without significant conditions of approval i'm hopefully, if the conditions are implemented the patio will be able to operate without unduly disturbing the neighborhood >> thank you. next speaker please. good afternoon, commissioners i'm mark i'm on 24th street i'm directly effected by noise from the valley taven. i have filed an official notice i'm going to read that statement and asking the commission to deny this. my first group is are interferes my privacy and licensing

maybe mr. hogan can say a few words >> i'm vince hogan i own a attentive i've owned 3 other bars and been in the valley for 32 years. in my time as an owner i've reached out to the neighbors and made deals with them so they'll never be disturbed. the valley taven i'm here today they want me to get a conditional use. i've reached out to the neighbors with an ongoing 5r789 i'll continue to change whatever they want. i ask the commission to grant us the use of the backyard. it's been in operation for 20 something years and never had a abc violation. i think over the years in general that's been a quiet place so i urge the

refreshing s to hear a large number of people speaking in support of this issue i have question for mr. hogan. i'm wondering how you're thinking of providing access to people who are mobility impaired you have open space into the gasped and i assume if you were walking a cane are you planning moveable ramps i assume everyone wants to be back there >> the bar is cast we did have a cast certificate for handicapped they exempted the levels because of the stairs. there's two or three levels but we were certified as handicapped assessable with exemptions to those areas >> you're not going - >> if i'm asked to you certainly will. >> i see where the code doesn't apply just have a ramp and allow someone the opportunity to be able to be outside that kind of thing. >> till when i was asked when we had a lot of lawsuits going on i'm willing to do whatever. >> that will address the exit of any neighborhood and we're not trying to put the a.d. enforcement on this thing that would be a nice thing to do. >> commissioner sugaya. >> oh, yes. i said to acknowledge randell knox he was a former commissioner at t

if you love the sport and here was mr. hogan.asily accessible than -- man, but to no got to sit with ben and valerie for an hour was special. >> i went to do an hour with barney was up when i such a great time. he said let's play together. eye to eye will let you know. i want to make sure my game is as good as it can be. -- i said i will let you know. >> i had a friend who's is a guest of mine at augusta but we were driving. we had golf carts. they do not want them the corso stop to get around. -- they do not want him on the course, but we headed up to get around. came in the opposite direction and we bumped into each other. arnold palmer said hi, verne. he got out of the cart with his second wife. i turned to my buddy is it that is arnold palmer and he said really? >> what is the difference between those athletes that are good in the booth and those who are not good in the booth? >> well, i say this with parenthesis, understanding of the english language helps. [laughter] and i am not cringe proof. so does i will sit and watch t

even ken venturi called him mr. hogan. t the most easily accessible man, but to know that we got to sit with ben and valery hogan for an hour, hour and a half at the colonial country club, pretty special. >> charlie: i went up to do an hour with arnie and we had such a great time. he said, let's play together, tell me when you want to play. i said, i'll let you know because i want to make sure my game is as good as it can be at that time. >> no kidding! i had a friend who was a guest of mine about three years ago and we were driving -- we are allowed to have golf carts but they don't want them, obviously, on the course. so we drove around the club and my buddy was in the cart with me and we pulled up in front to have the pro shop and a cart came in the opposite direction and we bumped into each other. arnold palmer said, hi, verne. i said, hi, arnie. he got out of the cart with his second wife and turned into the pro shop. my buddi 100 to my buddy and sat was arnold palmer. he said, really? (laughter) >> charlie: what's the

mr. cohen, who was also on the impeachment committee and is now secretary of defense. c-span: if you go down the list, you see caldwell butler, who's no longer in the congress, larry hogan, who went on to run for governor of maryland, wayne owens, the congressman from utah, and liz holtzman. >> guest: right. uh-huh. c-span: anybody else on there besides... >> guest: well, you have... c-span: ...mr. rodino in the middle? >> guest: ...yeah, rodino in the background, and you have--what's the name... c-span: (unintelligible). >> guest: ...from maryland on the fa--on the last--the last one there, senator--he's senator now from--no, he's the--the dark-haired fellow. he's got his hand up to his face so you can't... c-span: senator sarbanes. >> guest: that's right. that's who it is. c-span: we're going to go to some other photographs. where were you allowed to be in the--you know, were you allowed to get closer in the hearing room, compared to the... >> guest: the--the hear... c-span: ...others? >> guest: ...the--the--in the--in the house judiciary room there, you did not have the f--the freedom that you had in the senate caucus room when we were doing the watergate hearings. y