mr. holden: obviously, hate speech, no one is a fan of that. but when you frame it that way and look at how big the first amendment is and what it has allowed for, flagburning, animal abuse, that kind of thing, while that is repugnant, repelling and no honest person would be in favor of that, it is protected by the first amendment. which kind of underscores -- not to bring up citizens united -- why everyone gets so exercised over that. i think they got it right. i think the first amendment is big and broad. as we start talking about all our rights being hinged on that, that is why it is number one. everything else, including with reform issues and criminal justice issues, all flow from that. mr. rosen: go look at the original bill of rights. the first amendment was third. the original first said there had to be one representative in congress for every 50,000 inhabitants. if it passed, there would be 20,000 congresspeople today. thank goodness it did not pass. it is sort of a coincidence it is first, but it is undoubtedly most important from the

mr. holden: obviously, hate speech, no one is a fan of that.ut when you frame it that way and look at how big the first amendment is and what it has allowed for, flagburning, animal abuse, that kind of thing, while that is repugnant, repelling and no honest person would be in favor of that, it is protected by the first amendment. which kind of underscores -- not to bring up citizens united -- why everyone gets so exercised over that. and in some ways they're saying that flagburning is more appropriate than running ads. i think they got it right. i think the first amendment is big and broad. as we start talking about all our rights being hinged on that, that is why it is number one. the first amendment, everything else, including with reform issues and criminal justice issues, all flow from that. mr. rosen: go look at the original bill of rights. the first amendment was third. the original first amendment said there had to be one representative in congress for every 50,000 inhabitants. if it passed, there would be 20,000 congresspeople today. ju

mr. holden. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. holden: thank you mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from virginia, the chair of the judiciary committee for the time today and for is diligent work on the i.s.a. freedom act of 2015. -- on the u.s.a. freedom act of 2015. the world we live in is a dangerous place. indeed it's far more dangerous than it ever has been. acts of terror reached a record level last year and with the wickedness of groups like isis and boko haram continuing to show a complete disregard of human life, our nation must always remain prepared and vigilant. the legislation before us today mr. speaker, builds on the reforms of the legislation passed last congress, championed by my friend representative sensenbrenner and it accounts for the absolute need to protedget civil liberties while also remaining clear-eyed and vigilant about the real threats that we face every day around the world. so i thank the chairman and i thank the committee for their work. i urge support for h.r. 2048 and i yield back the balance of my

mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator. senator holden. >> thank you, mr. chairman. appreciate you hoilding this hearing today, and thanks to all of the witnesses. ms. jones, you mentioned in your testimony some of the difficulties in complying with the lower sodium standards and the 100% whole grains requirement. what can we do to help in that regard? what do you think the solution is? >> we just want to make sure that we don't go forward with target two for the sodium because right now, we're able to get by. we're struggling, but we're able to meet those requirements. but if we go on to target two, that would mean we are serving therapeutic sodium levels. there will be no flavor to the kids' food. i just received an e-mail from my director letting me know that the student surveys are back from parents, and many of them say that their children are no longer eating with us because there's no taste to their food. that is a big concern, and if we we continue on, i think that will be even a larger concern. >> so last year i included a provision that actually kept the wh

mr. gray's death was a homicide which we received today led us to believe we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> reporter: i want to bring in baltimore city council woman holden. it's great to have you here. this is the statement of charges. i underlined where it said spring or other device for opening in regard to the knife. that's a lie that he was charged with and what they thought he looked suspicious for. what's your reaction to charges that came today and the fact this was a big lie? >> i think it speaks to the bigger issue that for far too long -- first of all, i hate that freddie gray was not here. freddie gray was a tipping point of a bigger issue we have to address here in baltimore and throughout the nation. police officers -- and not all. there's bad apples in the bunch -- they take it too far to justify their wrong doing. i'm ecstatic we have a state's attorney that doesn't take sitedes of personalities but studies the facts and does what he's supposed to do. >> marilyn mosby talked about her ties. her husband represents the district where freddie gray lived and died. here's what she had to say. >> i come from five generations of law enforcement.