holt. he joins us from washington. mr. taylor, roof's manifesto says he got your inspiration from your website, roof wrote, "there are pages upon pages of these brooument black on white murders. i was in disbelief. i felt there was something vel ve i don't think. roof's step mother said, he was infected by internet evil. >> he did not get inspiration from the council's website, he got information. and the reason the information was so disturbing to him is because the facts, the reality, of the overwhelmingly black on white nature of interracial crime is something that is almost never reported. consealed. that is what he finds so be shocking. >> by the way, a number of people look at those websites and say they are dubious. an offense against god, do you really believe that? >> let's go back to the case of interracial crime which is what influenced mr. roof. the fact is that over the half a million interracial crimes, black commit about 85% of them against whites. whites commit only about 15% them against blacks. despite th

rick santorum said i abhor the sentiments mr. holt has expressed. these statements and sentiments are unacceptable, period, end of sentence. senator cruz believes there's no place for racism in society upon learning about mr. holt's background he immediately instructed that all those donation be returned. what do you think about that? should politicians be aware? should a bell go off when they get money from the council of conservative citizens? >> well, sure. but we don't know if any of them knew where the money was from. it says something about this holt character where he wants to put his cash, but i'm not sure what it tells us about the republican party candidates other than they're his favorites. make one other point quickly -- >> i want to stop you there. why does he give money to people if he doesn't agree with them? >> oh, no, i'm sure he does agree with them. >> what does he like about republicans on race? what does he like about republicans on race? >> well, they're the most acceptable candidates to a racist like him. i mean, that's what i

actually very forgiving, and speaking about forgiveness and for barents -- and my man, joseph holts, was not happy. mr. holzer: but it is true, -- professor gallagher: but it is true. [laughter] mr. holzer: these are not beads of sweat. professor varon: no beads of sweat. mr. holzer: there are at least two antislavery abolitionist who confided, one in a letter to his wife, there's something about lincoln's laws and johnson's of article because it will make the radical reconstruction of the south easier. god has spoken, lincoln has done his work, and now it is time for us, whether that meant johnson would be weaker, easier to dominate, or whether johnson would be a stronger leader. professor gallagher: don't you think they sweat because they knew johnson was not as capable a person as lincoln? i mean, andrew johnson had never had a great reputation. professor varon: yeah, and segue to a question that is so irresistible. i am not a fan of counterfactual's, but we are all asked all the time -- if lincoln had lived, would he have fared better than andrew johnson in the spirit of reconstruction in the post

holt! >> welcome to our studio. this is where nbc nightly news is done. >> i can see how lester would win an mr. were part of something big. >> he is everything you imagine and more. yes, he really is that fun, that smart, that kind he really is that genuine. >> that was very sweet. thank you for torpedoing my nightly news. we want to make a special thanks to you. we're so excited for you. and you are leading the charge of this entire network, which we appreciate. we couldn't let you go without one more thing. we have one more surprise. a little gift we thought would round out the sendoff. maybe we can bring out the gift. >> okay. >> we don't do things small here on the "today" show. we go big or we go home. >> it's oversized. >> to round out the sendoff -- >> surprise! >> you said you were skipping the gym this morning so i flew 97,000 hours back here to make sure it was not the case! >> how do we get her out of there? >> you can't get out. >> nice seeing you! >> after everything i put you through for so many years, and now these guys are doing it i couldn't not be here. >> thank you. >> i'm no

mr. roberts was the founder and chairman emeritus of comcast, the parent company of nbc universal. "nbc nightly news "anchor lester holterts. >> when i started the cable company back in 1963 i never dreamed that it could possibly grow to where it is today. >> reporter: nor could ralph roberts have dreamed the company name he came up with would some day be alongside the peacock atop 30 rock. >> ralph roberts was not supposed to be the cable man he turned out to be. he started as an advertising guy. that was his original career and he was in the navy. he used to sell golf clubs. he used to sell belts and suspenders. >> reporter: all that changed in the early '60s when roberts and his partners bought a tiny cable company in tupelo mississippi, better known as the birth place of elvis presley. cable tv was small change back then but roberts saw it as a way to reach more customers, offer them more channels. and it was just a start. >> we hung in there and we kept growing and growing, buying building getting franchises and were very aggressive in our desishde desire to build a real company long term. >> reporter: cop castmca

holt. thanks for joining us. degree. >>> up next the president leaves the bay area while a woman who wants to be president comes to the bay area. we'll tell you what mrt hillary's doing here. plus a possible sighting of the two escaped killers in new york. nbc bay area news starts now. >> good evening to you. thank you for joining us. i'm peggy bunker. >> i'm terry mcsweeney. one person is dead another injured when a vta train crashes into a car in san jose. >> this happened just after 8:00 at north capital and maddon avenues. unclear so far why the car was on the tracks in the first place or if anyone was on board the train at the time. officials say that the tracks will be

holt. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from north carolina seek recognition? without objectionings, the gentlewoman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, as we prepare to debate the transportation, housing and urban development appropriations bill i stand in support of our nation's truckers. mrs. ellmers: the trucking industry not only provides americans with access to goods we need to use every day, but it is also critical to our nation's economy. in my home state of north carolina, there are over 70,000 truckers working for more than 16,000 small businesses. perhaps even more impressive is that 86% of north carolina communities depend exclusively on trucks in order to transport consumer products and goods across our state. this industry is essential to ensure a growing and thriving u.s. economy and to provide crucial support to our nation's small businesses. mr. speaker, i would like to thank the hardworking men and women of this industry who eat their dinners on the road so that we can eat ours at home. i yield back the remainder of my time. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman yields back the balance of her