mr. holtz-eakin. >> guest: things going on here. the firstng is that the a administration has stated repeatedly that climate is their number one priority and that they are going to push the united states pretty aggressively towards a cleaner energy foundation, heavy use of renewables and less use of carbon -based fuels in particular coal, natural gas, oil and that carries with it economic cost and there is no question about that. to move in that way you have to make the things you want cheaper so that requires taxes and subsidies or the things you don't want more expensive whichm is what we are seen with the oil and natural gas and things like that. that is going to go on and that is their goal and that will be a costly venture and it is hard to transform the economy of the united states to change its fundamental fuel in a rapid whfashion. that is going to be a hard thing to do simultaneously with growing rapidly so they're trying to manage that. second thing which is just a mistake, in my view, refund mental mistake is we passed ne