mr. holtzman, i didn't call you, but thank you very much. sorry. i have a whole stack here. i'm going to try to call four or five at a time. if you are next door and you hear your name, come over. first up, pam something lee. pam ti lee. and i appreciate everyone's enthusiasm, but every time you clap, it slows down the process and makes it harder for everyone to get up and speak. following mrs. lee will be ami hahn, local 21. followed by sara greenwald. >> i will make it brief. >> thank you, supervisor cohen. i encourage you to speak and to act accordingly because water is life and to divest. and i'm hoping that other speakers that are here today can decline to speak because we need to have the vote to have happen. i'm making it brief. please vote yes. thank you. >> thank you. up next, we have mihan from local 21, followed by sara greenwald. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i'm staff at local 21. i have a letter that our retirement committee has drafted that i wanted to read to you guys. >> do you have a copy for us? >> i do. i only have two copies. >> we want to be sure th

mr. holtzman, are you still nearby? followed by kitty costello. teresa mcgovern. >> thank you. thank you for coming out. i'm wearing a t-shirt that said, "we are greater than fossil fuels." why are we still here? we voted to move to direct engagement in march, 2015, which was almost three years ago, so there's really no reason to have the same conversation today that we had in 2014 and '15. the amount of blood, sweat and tears, since my first board meeting is truly insane. putting money into s&p 500 that day would have made you hundred of millions of dollars on top of the money that you wouldn't have lost. we're talking about losing hundreds of millions. the city and county has sued the big five oil companies. new york city and new york state funds are further along than -- >> time. thank you, mr. holtzman. >> fair enough. >> up next, kitty costello, followed by teresa mcgovern, followed by glenn fieldman. is kitty costello in the room? tier teresa mcgovern? glenn fieldman? >> i waive my right to speak. >> what is your name? >> glenn fieldman. >> is terry wallace present? pleas

mr. holtzman, a quick question, actually, and thank you for your long-standing advocacy on the issue it's been noticed and appreciated in the bay area. i was hoping you'd be able to -- and if you don't know the answer, that's fine but in the most recent board of supervisors resolution, do you know if that specifies full divestment in an x amount of years or number of years. i'm hoping to get at the question by mr. helpner. >> the original motion in 2013 gave the five-year time line which was kind of the judicious and conservative time frame that was being used by divestment campaigns and five years was adopted by the new york city and state fund which dwarfed san francisco's holding. the most recent measure harkens back to the original measure. basically calls forth that these things have not taken place and that in fact these worsening circumstances have been added to the where-ass and focuses them on reporting where they are on the original effort and to provide progress reports with respect to the engagement on fossil fuels and the votes they have taken. but the most recent measure doe