mr. horowitz says that may not be the full explanation, what else could be going on? >> mr. chairman, i do think that the single biggest reason for the caseload is the shortage of judges over the last few years. i don't think that you can lose as many judges as we did at a time when enforcement was going up and not have that be a significant impact on the caseload and on wait times. we have -- we have taken a look at this issue repeatedly. we've kicked the tires. we've looked under the hood. we have tried to see what else is going on. one thing that we do hear quite a bit from all of our judges and from i.c.e. trial attorneys as well is that the complexity of the law has gotten -- the law has gotten much more complex over the last ten years. cases that used to be fairly simple are now complicated. let me give you an example. it used to be fairly straightforward to determine whether somebody is an aggravated felony under certain provisions. because of supreme court precedent and other decisions, in many instances the drug trafficking area is one, for example, it is actually m

mr. horowitz says that may not be the full explanation, what else could be going on? >> mr. chairman, i do think that the single biggest reason for the caseload is the shortage of junls over the last few years. i don't think that you can lose as many judges as we did at a time when enforcement was going up and not have that be a significant impact on the caseload and on wait times. we have -- we have taken a look at this issue repeatedly. we've kicked the tires. we've looked under the hood. we have tried to see what else is going on. one thing that we do hear quite a bit from all of our judges and from i.c.e. trial attorneys as well is that the complexity of the law has gotten -- the law has gotten much more complex over the last ten years. cases that used to be fairly simple are now complicated. let me give you an example. it used to be fairly straightforward to determine whether somebody is an aggravated felony under certain provisions. because of supreme court precedent and other decisions, in many instances the drug trafficking area is one, for example, it is actually mu

mr. horowitz says it may not be the full explanation, what else could be going on? >> mr. chairman, i do think that the single biggest reason for the case load is the shortage of judges over the last few years. i don't think that you can lose as many judges as we did at a time when enforcement was going up, and not have that be a significant impact on the caseload and on wait times. we have taken a look at this issue repeatedly. we have kicked the tires. we have looked under the hood. we have tried to see what else is going on. one thing we do hear quite a bit from all of our judges and from i.c.e. trial attorneys as well is that the complexity of the law has gotten -- the law has gotten much more complex over the last ten years. cases that used to be fairly simple are now complicated. let me give you an example. it used to be fairly straightforward to determine whether somebody is an aggravated felon under certain provisions. because of supreme court precedent and other decisions, in many instances, the drug trafficking area is one, for example, it is actually much more c

mr. james c. horowitz and i told him we were a church. i said, can you donate a portion of the lapped?> so i said we're trying to build a new church. we're in an area where there's a lot of violence and crime going on and we really trial trying to get. >> reporter: some believe the donation of this land was a christmas miracle. but as i spoke to pastor apple white and some of the church leadership, i found out that the miracle just keeps oncoming. >> this pastor built a brand new church and i told him, you know, we building a brand new church. he said you can have my plans. he said come over the neck day and get the plans and he gave me the plans. $10,000 plans for free. >> reporter: retired businessman james horowitz had been trying to sell this roughly $100,000 plot of land for some time. was inspired bite vision of the city of hope. >> he said he saw the sincerity of us. he said it was something about us and he said he had never been encouraged by people before. >> reporter: even with all the donations the church still needs to raise roughly $300,000. but pastor applewhite told me t

horowitz, you do great work. thanks for coming in. >> always a pleasure, david. melissa: liz macdonald joins us with breaking details. >> mr. martin skelly is pleading not guilty to seven-count indictment of securities fraud. the fcc -- sec filed a civil complaint against mr. shkreli. he was released on five million dollars bond secured by his father and his brother. he is considered a flight risk. he was ordered to surrender his passport this happened within the past hour. he turned to family members and his lawyers and smiled several times while walking out of the courtroom. declined to comment further. here is what he is accused of engaging in. atry tech at that of lies, deceit and greed. basically running a ponzi scheme. he launched a hedge fund. the scheme, by the way, the fraud, according to prosecutors, started in 2009. he launch ad hedge fund and started raiding hedge fund for personal costs things like clothing, office rent and medical expenses and food. when his separate biotech company, retrophin, basically when that company he bought, and became, took a majority stake, became ceo, he started raiding retrophin to