>> hardly. >> you make it a joke, mr. hur. you sit there and you smile and you laugh, and you make derog torrey comments because you have the power. >> you are a bully. >> i think that the only person that is making derog torrey comments in this chamber is you. >> i asked to respond to this comment. and i was told that mr. hartz has had a lot of time. >> you have a lot of time, more than the normally allotted time. >> so we are opening this up to public comment and i believe that mr. warfield was going to speak. >> mr. warfield, were you going to speak? >> peter warfield, executive director of library users, i have had a long history with the library and unfortunately i can say that the new commissioner is mistaken. the job of the minutes is not necessarily to include anything that the commissioners say. or anything that their officials might say,vy been to a lot with the library commission. let me tell you they have it on frid which they wanted to put into the library and which we and the aclu at the chronic foundation though

he did not site any law or any statue or any justification, i will go back to mr. hur's argument i will now send all of my idr and my information requests and anything that i have directly to the department head and specifically with the department head because that is the person who receives annual sunshine training and annual sunshine declaration and has the responsibility as the department head to insure everyone in the department follows the law. if someone does not follow the law, it is his or her responsibility. i was in the navy, in the submarine service, for 12 years and one lesson that we learned is that delegation is not advicati. on. >> if you named the director or the head of the department they are the ones who are responsible either directly or in directly for sending the person to deal with this issue or to answer for this issue. >> responsible for sending miss patterson and unfortunately that is an out for them because what they do often is some people who have absolutely no idea, no idea what is going on in this situation and show up and get asked questi

mr. hartz. >> commissioner hur you have a question or a comment? >> i was just going to say that i, concur with commissioner studley and i would be prepared to hear public comment and vote. >> i would move that we make a finding as suggested by commissioners. >> i would be happy to make that motion. and then we can have public comment on the motion, would that be helpful? >> yes. >> i believe that the motion is that the commission, find a better way to articulate this. the commission finds that the city library did not violate the sunshine ordinance as to all allegations referred to by the task force because the 150-word written summaries were included within the minutes as required by the sunshine ordinance and under section 677-hp 16. any person shall provide a statement, and this is the responsibility of the secretary of the clerk to take down and i appreciate you commissioner studley for creating the distinction or outlining the distinction between a transcript and minutes which is to summarize all of us that is the role and the responsibility

mr. st. croix, in the record? is that? >> well it is part of the minute. >> well it is a public document that was sent on march 25th, the continuance is offered originally by chair person hur and then renewed by chair person hayon in the subsequent month. >> commissioner andrews? >> it is not recorded in minutes, however. so, if what we are suggesting that you might want to do if you do want to continue it is say to the september meeting but on the record make that motion that documentation will be required and no further continuances will be grapted. >> commissioner andrew? s >> i am thinking of both sides and i believe in one of the communications the complainant wanted an opportunity to cross-examine the respondent and there could be the situation where the complainant is here and none of the respondents are here and so then where do we go with that? and if that is the case, then, you know, we need to carry, i recognize that in accommodation is probably the serious request, but i think that still does not necessarily and keep moving forward and guarantee that will move forward if those were the reasons why we needed to continue for the opportunity for the complainant to