mr. husted to deal with this. and that is to instead of breaking those ties in the major urban areas, which is what he was doing in favor of no early voting or in favor of limited hours, instead of doing that, break the ties the other way. make it so everybody has open hours, everybody has early voting on the weekends, and make it so that people can come and have access to voting. that's great. make it uniform so that everybody has that chance to vote. don't make it it uniform so that you limit people. >> dennis lieberman and thomas richy, gentlemen, thank you for your time tonight. i have a feeling we'll be talking to you again as these fuzzy rules continue to unfold in ohio closer and closer to election night. thank you it, gentlemen. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >>> lots still to come tonight including a big deal get for us for the interview, which i'm excited about. >>> plus the best worst story about gasoline you have heard since the last time you heard something truly amazing