. >> i am refuting that i never operated that mr. hwang stated on record and even though he never investigated my operations themselves and dpw provide solely on the work associations interpretation. of whether i am operating or not. and i also want to show that the position to my permit has always been just the word association, and using their associates and mr. hwang to under mine and revoke my permit unfairly, the manifest in justice is that after three years of operating and trying to operate and paying for all of the fees in san francisco, my permit is thrown out of the door for no fault of my own and over a lie which is i have never been operating. there puts me into poverty for no reason and it allows this work association to combat, and to have an anti-trust and anti-business activities against me and my business and i consider them business bullies, they try to really under mine my business and my integrity and i think that it is wrong. first of all, this here, and this is a letter that i received from the dpw. and it says that i

. >> i have a question, mr. hwang. >> what determines whether a permit is required for the tree trimming and require a permit? at this point? >> i do believe, that there is an upcoming appeal for the tree removals of such of the area, however, i am and i know that tree trimming on the whole does not require a permit. and >> sorry to interrupt. is there a certain threshold that then requires a permit? >> for the tree trimming, no. what we, believe that the website is clear that they should contact a arborist of how much can be done without damaging the tree, for the tree removals there are significant requirement as it relates to the certain trees and that is off of the public right-of-way. and if there is the trees to be removed in the public right-of-way, a permit is required by the department. >> okay, but if it is not in the public right-of-way and on the private property it does not require. >> there are certain thresholds that need to be evaluated and i think that the urban forester, at some point, later discusse

mr. lagos. >> and i want to state for the record that i was absent and i reviewed the material and read the materials. >> thank you, president hwang. >> good evening commissioners i am lagos with the safe commission of lake merced and one of the focuses as a community group to bring various injustices that we find in our community to the attention of government bodies like yourselves. and that is why we are here tonight and we were here on october 23rd, to bring to light, hopefully the fact that there was an injustice made in terms of a permit being issued to arborwell. and the issues regarding the safety. and other work and we, and this board, denied our appeal at that time and we would like to request a rehearing because we believe that there were misstatements made by the respondents that we believe had been more straight forward, with the facts, regarding this appeal, they might have been a different out come. and that is why we are here tonight. and so, i like to bring to your attention, the fact that we believe that it was manifest injustice in this particular appeal by the very fact that we have two individuals from the res