mr. irving was shot in the arm. it wasn't a fatal injury, but let me take you to a few minutes before this happened. here you see officer wright turning around in the car. he sees the car going the other way. miraculously no other cars were hit. according to local reports, they say the chase went on for 17 miles. they did use spike strips twice. one tire was blown, but he was still going, and that's when officer wright used a pit maneuver. >> get him up. >> they're telling him turn the car off. they say get him out. it's obviously chaotic because somebody has just opened fire on this driver. why is this guy running? >> you say he is 72 years old? >> after they stopped him and got him out of the car, they asked him -- >> what are you doing? >> the man didn't know what he was doing because he didn't know where he was. police say that he suffers from alzheimer's. now, the d.a. has ruled that officer wright was justified in using force to stop this man, and he will not be charged, but mr. irving will not be charged as w

mr. irving said, for our what we call etops aircraft, aircraft that are certified to fly over open oceanystems ought to be put in place and we ought to have a very short time frame of a year, two years at the most and just start it out and do it. we have been the leader in aviation. we need to lead now. >> you agree, tom? >> absolutely, yes. >> but you understand the domestic bureaucracy and international bureaucracy, the flicks of this, the various interest, business interests, the plane manufacturers, the airline companies, the pilot unions and all of that, is it doable? >> it's difficult. you mentioned why. >> because of all of the disparities? >> contactually. >> you think anything will be done out of this or more experience five years from now where a plane will simply disappear? >> no, it's outrageous. there is public pressure on this and i think that should be translated closely to political pressure. there should be political actions, too. i think it's a very good idea for the united states to take the lead on this because in every technical sense the united states is the leader