mr. isaacson. called to ask if he is aware of james lovelace's -- relates to the discussion he had about franklin and voltaire and i wonder if he is aware of voltaires and how that was -- british unitarian minister who said the purpose of miracles is to prevents the knee for miracles. >> host: why is this of interest to you. >> gus baas of the fossil water in the aqua fer. the debate between the american philosophical society about voltaire's theory of spontaneous -- is because of sea shells in the andes and jefferson didn't think it was a miracle. he did this before the plate tectonics and i'm concerned about protecting the water in the aqua fer but down in the last ice age, 10 to 12,000 years ago, and i think we're living as a similar time now, and james love locke british biologist and ologist, has posited that the earth -- the name for the earth is gia, and he thinks we have developed these communications systems which i can't use. i have naoto sensitive enlens see -- >> host: nancy, we'll leav

mr. isaacson is a former chairman and ceo of cnn chairman of the broadcasting board of governors and was the editor of "time." he currently serves as president and ceo of the aspen institute. >> host: so, walter isaacson what is theat link between avril hourlyman, ben franklin, steve jobs henry kissinger and adar can lovelace?: th >> guest: yeah, i think they're all create cannive minds, ander. that's what's intretted me throughout my career. to me, it's people who can come wound different disciplines like the arts and the sciences the way ben franklin did, the way ada lovelace did and make creative leaps of thet imagination. you know, we talk about innovation so often, it's almost drained of its meaning. and i've always like t to write about real people who are in a situation whether it with avril herriman after world war ii and you have to create a whole new world order of things like nato and the world bank and therl marshall plan or a steve jobs who says okay, we're now in a digital revolution, we have to make it personal. ..rds, were able to think different, think out of the box. i

isaacson. >> thank you, mr. chairman. general allen, thank you for your service to the country. i followed you closely on tv the last couple of months and i think you've done a great job. we're operating under the 2001 amuf is that correct? >> that's correct. >> would it be fair to say that the one the president sent to us to consider is actually eliminating amuf compared to the 2001 authorization? >> it is specifically intended to deal with the threat of isil, that's correct >> but it's limiting in the authority of the president would have primarily by the interpretation of the enduring phrase, is that correct?? >> enduring and the expectation as he's described it in the proposed legislation on the size and kinds of forces that might be applied, measures that might be applied is that correct? >> i voted for the 2001 authorization when i was here. it came on the heels of 9/11/20109/11/ 9/11/2001. it was passed at a time when americans had flags raised and the patriotism in our country was at an all-time high, at least in my lifetime and my memory. are we going to have to wait fo

isaacson. >> thank you, mr. chairman. general allen, thank you for your service to the country. followed you closely on tv the last couple of months and i think you've done a great job. we're operating under the 2001 aumf is that correct? >> that's correct. >> would it be fair to say that the one the president sent to us to consider is actually eliminating aumf compared to the 2001 authorization? >> it is specifically intended to deal with the threat of isil that's correct >> but it's limiting in the authority of the president would have primarily by the interpretation of the enduring phrase, is that correct?? >> enduring and the expectation as he's described it in the proposed legislation on the size and kinds of forces that might be applied, measures that might be applied, is that correct? >> i voted for the 2001 authorization when i was here. it came on the heels of 9/11/2001. it was passed at a time when americans had flags raised and the patriotism in our country was at an all-time high, at least in my lifetime and my memory. are we going to have to wait for that type of ev

isaacson. >> thank you mr. chairman. thanks both of you for being here. i was a real estate guy in 1986. i had a development company and a brokerage company. i have a question for both of you. first of all, thanks for being on the nine who voted against selective treatment from the passed law. i think that's right, both of you voted against that, if i'm not mistaken. looking in a rear-view mirror, had some transition been applied to those investments made prior to '86 so the treatment would be continued and tax law been prospective instead of a claw back, did you ever think about doing that, or if we go into something again, could we do it that way? >> we did not think about it at time. if there's an industry we hit, it was real estate. and we drove the s&ls out of business who were the principle financiers of real estate. we did not do it -- we did not do it -- mean, we did it retro actively. we found passive losses, such a grievous way for rich people to shell their money and pay very little taxes that we got rid of it. but, senator, you're absolutely right. the real estate industry wa

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