mr. jackson, is is recognized for 60 minutes as the designee of the minority leader. mr. jackson: thank so you much. thank you, my dear colleague. i ask unanimous consent all members have five legislative days in which to revise and extend their remarks and include any extraneous material on the subject of this special order hour. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. jackson: it's now my privilege to address you. in the playing of julius caesar, marc anthony proclaims what cause would hold you then to mourn for him? and i rise tonight because this is our question today. by what measure and according to what standard might we allow this week to slip between our fingers and not remember what happened on a street in minneapolis on may 25th. what in all creation would justify our forgetting a collective unconsciousness. we are summoned into this chamber tonight because george floyd should be alive today. he should be enjoying the matriculation of his daughter from one grade to the next. he should be living out his days under the protections afforded to every america

mr. jackson, were there critics of janet reno? there certainly were, particularly among the republicans. and in the more conservative parts of the nation, particularly talk radio, where rush limbaugh was a very big force back then. the concern there was that the was to them a lot of to a lot of conservatives, it was about guns that the federal government attacked the branch davidians order and only in order to confiscate their guns. there had been several previous incidents involving federal agents and raids on large gun owners or people who owned a lot of guns. and there was a feeling amongst the real far right i mean, the real conspiracy theorists, that the government was planning to take everyone's gun guns registered. so that was their concern coming out of waco. there was that it was an opening movement in the government's effort to take away people's firearms. now, she also said that the government denied all this, that their concern was the anti-government attitude, that some of these groups, including the branch davidians,

mr. jackson, were there critics of janet reno? there certainly were, particularly among the republicans. and in the more conservative parts of the nation, particularly talk radio, where rush limbaugh was a very big force back then. the concern there was that the was to them a lot of to a lot of conservatives, it was about guns that the federal government attacked the branch davidians order and only in order to confiscate their guns. there had been several previous incidents involving federal agents and raids on large gun owners or people who owned a lot of guns. and there was a feeling amongst the real far right i mean, the real conspiracy theorists, that the government was planning to take everyone's gun guns registered. so that was their concern coming out of waco. there was that it was an opening movement in the government's effort to take away people's firearms. now, she also said that the government denied all this, that their concern was the anti-government attitude, that some of these groups, including the branch davidians,

mr. turner: well, and it's importt at -- justice jackson: yeah. mr. turner: --mta itself, it codifies this presumption of a backdrop of state law. there are background principles here, and that's what justice jackson: all right. let me explore that with you for just a second. had thought that this was aboud that the entirety of o preemption jurisprudence is the notion that the federal government in certain circumstans n make policy pronouts that differ from what the state may want or what y else may want, and the supremacy clause says that wt the federal government says takes precedent. so you've been saying over and over again idahos,ou know, a state and we have healthcare policy choices and we' made -- we've set a standard of care in this situati. all that's true. but the question is to what te can the federal government say: no, in this situation, our sd is going to apply? mr. turner: and -- justice jackson: that'what the government is saying, and i don't understa, consistent with our preemption jurisprudence, y c be saying otherwise. mr. turner: ye

mr. turner: well, and it' important that -- justice jackson: yeah. mr. turner: -- emtala itself, it codifies this presumioof a backdrop of state law. there are background principles here, and that's what -- justice jackson: all right. let me exphat with you for just a second. i -- i had thought that this case was about preemption and the entirety of our preemption jurisprudenthe notion that the federal government in certai circumstances can make policy pronouncements that differ from what the steay want or what anybody else may want, and the suprclause says that what the federal government says takes precedent. so you've been saying over and over again idaho is, you know, a state and we have healthcare policy choices and we've made -- 've set a standard of care in this situation. all that's true. but the question is to what extent can the federal government say: no, in this situation, our standard is going to apply? mr. turner: and -- juice jackson: that's what the don't understand how, consistent with our preemption jurisprudence, you can be saying other

justice jackson: yes. mr. eedler: all i'm saying is that there may be imperfections -- justice jackson: all right. let me ask you about whether or not you are asking for an extension of robinson. that's come up a couple of times, and i don't -- i don't -- i don't see it as an extension or whether that's being asked for. so can you explain whether there's some sort of extension of robinson -- mr. kneedler: no. justice jackson: -- happening today? mr. kneedler: no, i don't think so at all because, as i said, the sleeping outside is an essential human function, and if you say someone can't sleep outside, that's -- that's sort of -- or has no place to sleep inside, that's the definition, really, of homelessness. justice jackson: so you're not suggesting that people should be excused from engaging in otherwise criminal conduct? so we've heard this example about people stealing in order to eat. i mean, that would be a situation in which someone is actively participating in what would be otherwise criminal behavior --

mr. jackson, do you get him to say a quickly or are we going to hold michael cohen's hand and walk him through everything that we for it in this trial today. yeah. john, good morning. this is going to be nothing quick about this. okay. just to be clear, i think that first of all, we should back up and note that michael cohen, right, a lot of what he will say has already been spoken to by other witnesses. i think that was very intentional on the part of the prosecutors, such that pit want to leave too much reliance upon him having said that, i think those other women missions you can draw the reasonable inference that trump knew about this. and in fact, he has an own tweet saying it was reimbursement. there's testimony as to the white house meeting with michael cohen and the oval office. there's testimony as to the sharpies and the reimbursements from his personal bank account, having said that, you could still argue that trump has what we call plausible deniability with michael cohen. not so much if others have put trump in the room, michael cohen puts him at the table, and so i think what you

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mr. jackson, for four minutes. mr. jackson: thank you, honorable congresswoman hayes from the great state of connecticut. i rise because it is an imperative that this body move with all deliberate speed to pass a farm bill that's both responsible and enriching for the american people. the farm bill is one of the most fundamental pieces of legislation that we enact as a government. and not simply because of the dollars we dedicate, but more so because of the amount of people who are supported by the passing of this indispensable law. unlike most of the bills we pass, the farm bill is not a dry and deep personalized legislative act. there are names and faces attached to food. there are real people in dire situations, associated and connected to the success of this by unlike most of the appropriations we allocate in this body, the farm entail moral document that reminds us we yes each other as human beings. it brings us back to the fundamental things. it reminds us the politic os they have future means nothing in the stoma

mr. jackson: i would like to thank the honorable congresswoman sheila cherfilus-mccormick from florida, co-anchor of this special order hour. thank you, congresswoman mccormick. tonight, just a few of my colleagues and i gather in this place and at this time to remind the members of the body and the american people of the cost of progress in this country. i submit to you that there are too many people who have come to believe that progress is inevitable. that history is slanted upward. and that if left to its own devices, this country will magically always do the right things. and it is not ironic that those are usually also the same people who believe that marchs and demonstrations are untimely and excessive. in a very real sense, these are the people who said that reverend martin luther king was a rabble-rouser. that thurgood marshall was delusional. that college pro tests are inconvenient -- protests are inconveniences and not to be taken seriously. that the preservation of the status quo is of more social value than the expansion of opportunity and liberty. and that they do further believe th

mr. keith self and dr. ronny jacksonu for coming okeith self, you were downtown in the courtroom this morning. all day or something, what was that like. >> it was surreal. that was a travesty, a parody, a mockery of any sense of justs they judge has one thing in mind, along with the da, not justice. a conviction, harassment. larry: can i ask you, don't want to ask. what -- you have been around for a long time. you say he has a conviction, he will bust trump, what was it tip-off to you? what happened that made you think this is just as bad as i thought. >> how he stopped to prosecution and defense, immediately for prosecution. he let them do whatever he wanted, he let defense have no defense. that was very obvious. larry: you saw cohen lying on the stand. >> he admits he stole and he lied. what credibility does he have? he said, this is in his testimony, revenge against trump is best served cold from his words today. larry: interesting, dr. ronny jackson. good to see you. as a doctor, you are a white house doctor for a go

ronny jackson. mr. appreciate it very much. ♪ me and my friends ♪ ♪ life is better with the credit gods are on your side. rewards once available to the few are now accessible to the many. credit one bank. get cash back rewards, and live large. larry: can't put a square peg in a round hole and spend and spend and people don't want it. joe biden spend and spend, lose and lose that's my take. we'll let david asman put a round peg in a square hole and square hole in a round peg. whatever that is.

mr. fletcher: correct. thanks. justice jackson: i d n perceive there to be such a sharp distinction between blom and bantam books. the government seems to be arguing here that bantam books t way to go and that blom is not the right test. i appreciate that blom uses significant encouragement, but i think itay the question is whether the government has provided such significant encouragement, either overt or covert, that thehoe must in law be deemed that of the state. that it is suggesting in the same way that bantam books is, that it is really about coercion as opposed to just encouragement. am i wrong to think there is really not that much difference between the two? mr. fletcher: i don't inyou are wrong there. i think we say that is the w you should read significant language. it makes a big government's choice. you can view that ashelip side of the circuit cotsof threats for bantam books. the lower courts and my friends on the others have really tried to turn that significant language into something quite different, into circumst

mr. nadler votes aye. ms. jackson lee? mr. cohen? mr. johnson? mr. johnson votes aye. mr. lu? mr. correa? ms. dean? ms. dean votes aye? ms. escobar, ms. escobar votes aye. mr. ivy? >> aye. >> mr. ivy votes aye. you're not recorded. mr. good votes no. mr. chairman, 8 yeas and 17 no's. >> the no's have it. the amendment is not agreed to. the gentleman from georgia. >> mr. chairman, i have an amendment at the desk to report. point of order reserved from the gentleman of california. >> amendment to the amendment and the nature of the substitute. >> i object mr. chairman. >> okay. >> the clerk will read the amendment. >> amendment to the amendment in the nature of the substitute to the committee report for resolution recommending that merrick garland in contempt, the end of second full paragraph, serious concerns of the pettency competency of donald trump. fictional serial killer from silence of the lambs. congratulations, we have people that are being released into our country that we don't want in our country, end quote, mr. trump also confused the city of china with taiwan. mr. trum

mr. nadler votes aye. ms. lofgren. ms. jackson lee. mr. cohen. mr. johnson. mr. johnson votes aye. mr. schiff. mr. schiff votes aye. mr. swalwell. mr. swalwell clothes aye. mr. lieu. ms. jayapal. mr. correa. ms. scanlon. ms. scanlon votes aye. mr. neguse. mrs. mcbath. ms. dean. ms. dean votes aye. ms. escobar. ms. escobar votes aye. ms. ross. ms. bush. miss ivey. mr. ivey votes aye. ms. balint. mr. issa, you are not recorded. mr. issa votes no. mr. fitzgerald votes no. mr. gooden votes no. mr. fry votes no. mr. chairman, there are eight ayes and 17 noes. chair jordan: the noes have t the amendment is not agreed to. the gentleman from georgia. mr. johnson: mr. chairman. i have an amendment at the desk. chair jordan: clerk will report. point of order reserved by the gentleman from california. >> amendment to the amendment gnat nature of -- chair jordan: objection to -- mr. johnson: i object, mr. chairman. >> amendment to the amendment in the nature of a substitute to the committee report for the resolution recommending the house of representatives find make b. garland in contempt of congress for a s

mr. nadler votes aye. ms. jackson-lee. mr. cohen. mr. johnson. mr. johnson both aye. mr. schiff votes aye. mr. swalwell both aye. ms. jayapal. mr. korea. mr. net views -- ned goose. mr. bass. ms. escobar does aye. ms. ross, ms. bush mr. ivey. mr. ivey both aye. mr. i say you are not recorded. mr. issa votes no. mr. fitzgerald votes no. mr. gooden votes no. mr. chairman and their eight ayes and 17 nose. >> the no's have it. to.amendment is not agreed >> mr. chairman ivan amendment at the desk. the point of order reserved by the german for, what you.a. the i object mr. chairman. clerk will read in the impediment to the mentor substitute for the committee report the resolution recommended houses member representative in attempt to congress for worth refusal to. on page 13 the second full paragraph insert the committee consents about the competency of donald trump the weekend before the committee took up this contempt of court and new jersey. mr. trump faced as of late great hannibal lecter he's a wonderful man" " congratulations of a great hannibal lecter. we have people tha

mrs. jackson- lee for her five minutes of questioning. okay, we will go with mr. ivey, i'm sorry. the gentleman from maryland. fire away. >> i appreciate it. secretary mayorkas, thank you for being here today, the work that you do, i've been listening to my colleagues on the other side talk about treading on the constitution, it seems to me the impeachment proceeding that was moved forward out of this committee was the true scar of the constitution, and really did tread on the constitution. it's interesting to me, if we go back, almost before you got into the job, there was an article of impeachment. there was a movement to move you from office. talks to a group of voters, they said this would be fun, referencing to you, and get the popcorn. then we came to the actual hearings that were held, there were two of them, i had a little experience with the impeachment proceedings, and the house, when i worked on the judiciary committee staff. we didn't remove anybody from office. we gave people due process, and a chance to present evidence and the like, and it was taken in a much more s

justice jackson: yes. mr. kneedler: all i'm saying is that there may be imperfections -- stice jackson: all right. let me ask you about whether or not you e king for an extension of robinson. that's come up a couple of times, and i don't -- i don't i don't see it as an extension or whether that's ing asked for. so can you explain whether there's some sort of extension of robinson -- i do not see it as an extension, so can you explain whether there is some sort of extension of robinson happening today? >> i do not think so because the sleeping side is an essential human function. if u y someone cannot sleep outside at is or has no place to sleep inside that the definition really of homelene. >> you are now suggesting they should excused from otherwise criminal conduct? we heard this example about people stealing and ordered to eat. that would be a situation in which someone is actively participating in what woulbe otherwise criminal behavior if anybody diitand the idea i guess is that maybe they need to do it so

mr. nadler? jackson lee? mr. cohen? mr. cohen votes no. >> mr. johnson? mr. johnson votes no. >> ms.ean? ms. escobar? ms. ross? ms. bush? mr. ivy? >> we are going let mr. nadler come and vote on the report. will commit write will just stand -- will committee just take a break for a second. once mr. nadler gets here, we will move legislation. republican members have food back there if you haven't eaten. i don't know if we have enough for the democrats. >> you're not recorded. >> escobar votes no? ms. job or votes no. mr. matthew you're not recorded. >> is the general lady recorded? ms. bush you're not recorded. ms. bush votes no. mr. bishop votes aye. mr. nadler votes no. >> the ayes have it, the report to be reported to the house members will have two days to submit views without objection the staff is authorized to make technical and conforming changes. we now call -- one second. hr7803 to amend title 45, exception and other purposes for -- purposes of markup. the chair recognizes the gentleman from california, mr. issa for an opening statement. >> thank you, mr. chairman. in short

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happens after that who knows with me now, cnn legal analyst, former defense attorney joey jackson, or current events? mri hey joe jackson and also with us defense attorney, former white house lawyer jim scholz gentlemen. thank you so much for being with us. joey liliya, start with you on what we went hill see jury instructions from judge juan merchan about an hour long. what are you looking for here yeah. >> good morning to you, john. good morning, jim. what you look for is that remember the process the process provides for the jury to be the determiner of the facts, they are about the credibility the other witnesses, assessing what facts were proven, what facts are not. the judge is the person who was there to really preside over the law. and that's what the judge will do in jury instructions. now now that you have the facts, that is the jury, they now have to be given well, what are we applying these facts to? what are the general principles of law? oh, and these real principles, john, are very much, i don't want to say rote, but they're quite common you give instructions to the jury with regard to wh

justice jackson: this inot a test for first amendment violations. mr. Ñaga: this is the first amendment, right? justice jackson: i understand, but we have a test for whether or not the first amendment is actually violated. in certain situations, you know, the government can actually require that speech be repressed, if there is a compelling interest, correct? mr. aguiÑaga: it has never been litigad. thqution in this case is whhethe government itself -- justice jackson:justicjason: it is collusion, it is a state action, right? that is the question in this case. mr. aguiÑaga: i would encourage the courts to view this the way you did bantam books. used that term four times in nt books. juice sotomayor: encouraged to suppress their own speech. so, like justice kavanaugh, i veome experience enuraging. [laughter] u st wrote a bad editorial. here are the five reasons you should notrite another one. you just wrote a story that ll with factual errors. here are the 10 reasons you shld not do it again. this happens thousands of tis a day. mr. aguiÑaga:n the modelin

mr. trump. yes. joe jackson. great to see you. and i do apologize for making certain way. that's era no problem at all all right. knew this morning, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy minsky says he is postponing his participation in all international events, the next coming days. >> as russia continues its push into the kharkiv region overnight, three waves of russian glide bomb attacks on the city injured at least 21 people there, including two 12-year-old girls in an eight-year-old boy cnn chief international security correspondent, nick paton walsh, is in the kharkiv region with more what we're seeing all from kharkiv and we make sure people understand the context of this is not another active front line where the russians are seeing excess. >> they've been seeing success and moving forwards in the east quite dramatically over the past weeks, what they did on friday is launched a significant new invasion, frankly from their territory into parts of ukraine that they'd been kicked out two years ago. and it's frankly depressing to be back here. this was the front lin

mrs. sheila jackson lever five minutes. >> first of all let me think the director for years of service to this nation. we do not often get to speak positively to a person that is young but has a long history of service. we thank you for having that kind of record. and being expert enough to have been on this side -- like the legislative cited knowing the difficulty we have of trying to put a budget together or assessing the executive budget because the whole question is about revenue. to be able to ensure that we have enough revenue coming in. so first i want to make the point, i like gospel music the aftermath of the george floyd horrific killing a young black boy either saying or wrote a song that said i just want to live. the passionate emotional song i commend any of you to put up on youtuber however. it is a theme that i want to use that we are not trying to create an atmosphere where american families, no matter where they started in life are just surviving. they are just barely making it. vision and budget that makes us comfortable. >> the budget would pay for the investments to he

mr. and let's start with roberto clemente in duval county. jackson ville, florida. when say that book was banned, who banned it and why? well, it was was banned. the school district and. and the answer why is sort of an interesting question. i think. now, look at it from the perspective of one year later, i think that the people who banned who who removed this and 273 other titles books from the shelves in the schools in that district i think they were doing it as a form of creative protest to ron desantis new governor ron desantis, his new new law that sort of the the anti woke law that was put into place making it a crime to present books on certain topics that covered say sexuality, gender identification, racism and so they removed all of these books that for i think probably for the purpose of drawing attention to that at the time it seemed like they were doing this simply they were being good soldiers and just following law and and removing all the books that needed to be removed. but certainly their impetus for doing this was legitimate. i mean, desantis was m

mr. trump is under more pressure to keep his thoughts to himself about the jury and witnesses. nbc's brie jackson joins us. and the judge again brought up the threat of jail time if the former president keeps talking. >> reporter: that's right, good morning, frances. the judge ordered mr. trump to pay $1,000 more for criticizing the jury. this marks the tenth violation of the gag order. judge juan merchan says it appears the fines are not serving as a deterrent. he says the last thing he wants to do is put the former president in jail but warned he will if it's necessary. mr. trump suggested to reporters that he's not afraid of that possibility. >> this judge has given me a gag order and says you'll go noto jl if you violate it, and frankly, you know what? our constitution is much more important than jail. it's not even close. i'll do that sacrifice any day. >> reporter: and jury heard from jeffrey mcconney. he oversaw the accounting department at the trump organization during the time prosecutors accused mr. trump of falsifying records. mcconnie testified that he was ordered to reimburse michael

mr. trump's former lawyer and key witness in this case said on a podcast that he expects to testify next week. frances? >> brie jackson for us, thank you. >>> turning now to tensions in the middle east. president biden announcing that he will not be supplying israel with offensive weapons for an invasion of rafah. benjamin netanyahu put out a defiant statement saying israel will defeat hamas militarily with or without the u.s. and national security minister tweeted, quote, hamas hearts biden. he later deleted it after an outcry. let's go live to clapman bell. what more are the israelis saying? >> reporter: good morning, frances. as you say, that fallout does continue, following president biden's interview, and the decision to pause a shipment of bombs to israel. israel's ambassador to the united nations calling the pause a very disappointing decision, even frustrating. others in israel echoing prime minister netanyahu, saying israel will continue to fight hamas until its destruction. that said by the foreign affairs minister. but president biden also catching backlash back at home. republican senators accusing the pre

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mr. trump said today, november fifth, is the real verdict. let's bring in professor melinda jackson from san jose state and paul mitchell. our polling expert with political data inc. in sacramento. nice to see both of you on the program yet again, melinda, let's start with you. we know this verdict is historic. we know it's significant. does it matter, though, to the american public at this climate in this country right now? right. well, we do have a very polarized atmosphere in the country at the moment. and we know that for the strongest trump supporters and the strongest democrats supporting biden, this is not going to make much of a difference. but this election in november is going to be decided by a small number of voters in a few key battleground states. and for those voters who may be more moderate, independent, having a felony conviction is going to make them sit up and pay attention. i think that's that's very interesting. you say that. let me jump in here. excuse me. president biden sitting and watching all of this, does he jump in or does he kind of stay on the sidelines

mr. trump's supporters tonight. president biden in his first post-verdict comments pointed out the jury's unanimous verdict and warned it is reckless to say the system is rigged. it's where we begin tonight with hallie jackson. >> reporter: donald trump defiant as ever railing against the dubious history he's made as the first former president convicted of felonies. >> if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone. >> reporter: as supporters outside trump tower flew a flag reading, trump or death, inside, mr. trump insisted he wanted to take the stand in his own defense. he had the choice and chose not to. >> i wanted to testify. the theory is you never testify because as soon as you testify, anybody, if it were george washington, don't testify, because they'll get you on secret -- something that you said slightly wrong. >> reporter: then a laundry list of false claims, grudges, and grievances including against the democratic prosecutor, who brought the case against him. >> it's a very sad thing that's happening in our country, and it's a -- it's a thing that i'm honored in a way i'm honored because somebody has to do it, and i might as well keep going and be the one. >> reporter: the verdict galvan

mr. and let's start with roberto clemente in duval county. jackson ville, florida. when say that book was banned, who banned it and why? well, it was was banned. the school district and. and the answer why is sort of an interesting question. i think. now, look at it from the perspective of one year later, i think that the people who banned who who removed this and 273 other titles books from the shelves in the schools in that district i think they were doing it as a form of creative protest to ron desantis new governor ron desantis, his new new law that sort of the the anti woke law that was put into place making it a crime to present books on certain topics that covered say sexuality, gender identification, racism and so they removed all of these books that for i think probably for the purpose of drawing attention to that at the time it seemed like they were doing this simply they were being good soldiers and just following law and and removing all the books that needed to be removed. but certainly their impetus for doing this was legitimate. i mean, desantis was m

>> hallie jackson, thank you. >>> 7:20. mr. roker has his eye on the weather. hey, al. >> once again, let's check it out. we have summertime highs in the southeast. we have snow in montana today. we're looking at windy conditions in the northern plains and, again, the severe storms down through the southern plains as well. we're going to get to your local forecast in the next 30 seconds. n meal, whole grain corn, chicken byproduct meal. what's in blue? (speaker 1) deboned chicken, chicken meal, brown rice, barley, oatmeal. (speaker 2) yeah, but those ingredients cost a lot more. (speaker 1) blue is only about 50 cents more a day. that's not too much for my chester. weather. mr. melvin, looking very guys and dolls today. >> i think that's a compliment. thank you. ♪ ♪ horse ride here ♪ ♪ his name was paul revere ♪ >> thank you, al. >>> coming up, new developments in the matthew perry investigation. what authorities are doing to find out who supplied the star with that drug that contributed to his death. >>> and the world's largest food company with a line of froz

mr. speaker -- [speaking spanish] helen jackson, may she rest in peace, nancy, catalina garcia. [speaking spanish] and it is why i rise today to honor mothers, my mother, and so many women in illinois 3 who have shown love and compassion and shown love even when they've been given hate. i also recognize as our mothers, as i pay my respects to them, they also want to make sure we pay respects to the brave children that they have raised. you see, on college campuses across the united states and the whole world, students, our children, they're fighting for our shared humanity. they're putting their comfort and bodies on the line to disrupt the status quo, and they're sending a clear message that palestinian, that jewish, that christian children must be protected and that we must uplift our shared humanity. inspired by the lessons we've learned from our own mothers in our communities, these brave and courageous students are defending children in gaza being murdered with u.s. bombs. they are taking a stand for children whose schools have been destroyed. students of all faiths, muslim

mr. trump faces anything from probation to prison time. and he can still be elected, even if he is found guilty. frances? >> brie jackson, thank you. >>> supreme court justice samuel alito is refusing to recuse himself from cases that involve january 6 and former president trump. that's even after reports about controversial political flags seen flying outside his homes. here's nbc's kelly o'donnell. >> reporter: a defiant judgment from supreme court justice samuel alito, refusing democrats' demands that he recuse himself from pending cases related to january 6 and former president trump. over flags flown at his virginia home in 2021, and new jersey vacation house in 2023. flags frequently used by maga followers who deny the 2020 election results. the incident sparking national attention just this month. alito repeatedly blamed his wife martha ann as solely responsible for the controversial displays and distanced himself in a pair of detailed letters to congress. i had nothing whatsoever to do with the flying of the nag. flag. flag. i asked my wife for several days to take it down and she refused. my wife was greatly di