mr. james chafey spent years going to the library commission requesting the financial dealings of the friends of the library and i told you this numerous time and expended $60 million in the name of the library but neither the librarian or the commission members or the commissioners have an idea of where the money went. they accepted blindly whatever was told to them by the friends and mr. her era spent two years violating records and the sunshine ordinance multiple times and also prima facie cases he violated the californias public records act and he made no effort to see where the money was going. to hide the fact he was coming to meetings and lying to the library commission and the public about the fact that everything was on track and had no idea if it was. he wanted to hide the idea he was taking thousands from this group every year, lying about it and denying on it [inaudible] he got nothing and in turn looking the other way. i call it the you don't tell and we won't ask it policy about where the money went and in the minutes was the official -- please, you let mr. sutton go on beyond h