mr. rupert murdoch's answer was emphatic. your answer, mr. james murdoch, was somewhat more nuanced. have you received any information which gives you cause for concern that employees of news corp or contractors of news corp may have indulged in that kind of act? >> no. we have only seen -- we have only seen the allegations that have been made in the press. i think it was in "the mirror" or something like that. and we are actively trying to -- we would like to know exactly what those allegations are and how to understand, you know -- >> you have seen no internal documents, memos, records or received any verbal reports that any employee of news corp hacked into the phone line -- >> no. definitely not. >> thank you. have you as a result of a wider review, clearly this has been a shock to your corporate culture, have you heard from any of your employees of papers in other countries that phone hacking or illegal practices may have been happening in those territories, in your australian properties or any territory indeed when news corp owns media properties? are you doing a global review

mr. davis' questioning, there was one key question you admitted to us. mr. murdoch, james, through the civil actions have you been paying glenn moore claire's legal fees? >> as i said before to mr. davies. >> let's keep it short, it's a yes or no yes. >> i don't know the current status of those. you asked a question, am i paying all of mr. mulcaire's legal fees. >> have you been playing glenn mulcaire's legal fees during civil actions. >> i don't know the civil actions. i do know certain civil fees were paid for mr. mulcaire by the company and i was as surprised and shocked to learn that as you are. >> can you understand that people might ask why a company might wish to pay the legal fees of a convicted felon who has been involved intimately involved in the destruction of your reputation, to buy the corporation's violence? >> i can't understand that. that's exactly why i asked the question. that's exactly what -- when the allegations came out, i said are we doing this? is this what the company is doing? and on legal advice, you know, and again, i don't want to be legalisti

mr. james murdoch, first, when did you become aware that the phones of members of the celebrities and royal families and members of crime had been hacked. when did you become aware that the phone of the murder victim had been hacked? >> the terrible instance of voice mail interception around the case only came to my attention when it was reported in the press a few weeks ago. >> only when the guardian reported it. >> i can tell you it was a total shock that was the first that i had heard of it and became aware of it. >> is that the same for hacking of other victims of crime? in other words, have you been made aware prior to this story breaking that your reporters hacked into the phones of any other crime victims? >> no, i have been not been made aware of that. >> okay. just for the record you answered this to my colleague jim sheridan earlier, you'll be aware it's a very lively interest to regulators in the united states. the actor jude law is alleging that his phone was hacked on u.s. soil. given that allegation are you absolute confident that no employee or contractor of news corp. or any

mr james murdoch, through all the civil actions, have you-not you personally, but your organisation-been paying glenn mulcaire's legal fees? >> as i said earlier in answer to a question from mr davies- [interruption.] >> let's keep it short. yes or no? it is a yes or no question. >> i do not know the current status of this. you asked the question have i paid all mr mulcaire's legal fees. >> have you been paying legal fees for glenn mulcaire during the course of the civil actions? >> i don't know the details of the civil actions, but i do know that certain legal fees were paid for mr mulcaire by the company. i was as surprised and shocked to learn that as you are. >> can you understand that people might ask why a company might wish to pay the legal fees of a convicted felon, who has been intimately involved in the destruction of your reputation, if it were not to buy his co-operation and silence? >> no, it is not. i can understand that, and that is exactly why i asked the question-when the allegations came out, i said, "how can we? are we doing this? is this what the company is doing?" on

mr. davies' questioning, there was one key question he omitted to ask. mr. murdoch, james, through all the civil actions, have you been paying glenn mulkhair's legal fees? not you personally, but your organization. >> as i said earlier to the question from mr. davies, there are -- >> no, no. let's keep it short. yes or no? it's a yes or no question. >> i don't know the current status of those. you asked the question are we paying all of his legal fees. >> have you been paying legal fees during the course of the civil actions? >> i don't know the details of the civil actions but i do know that certain legal fees were paid for mr. mulkhair by the company and i was as surprised and shocked to learn that as you are. >> can you understand that people might ask why a company might wish to pay the legal fees of a convicted felon who's been involved -- intimately involved in the destruction of your reputation if it were not to buy his cooperation of silence? >> i can understand that and that's exactly why i asked the question. that's exactly what -- when the allegations came out,

mr. james murdoch. he made a statement on the seventh of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements that were wrong. qe essentially admitted the parliament had been misled on what we were told. can you tell us to what extent were we misled when we became aware of that? >> mr. chairman, thank you. i would like to say how sorry i am and how sorry we are for particularly the victims of illegal voicemail deceptions and it's a matter of great regret and everyone at the news corporation and these are standards these actions do not live up to the standards that our company aspires to everywhere around the world and it's our determination to put things right, make sure these things don't happen again and to be the company that i know that it has always aspired to be as for my comments mr. chairman which i believe was around the closure of the news of the world newspaper. >> i would like to say. >> stand closure of the world of the newspaper where i stated that the company hadn't been in possess

mr. james murdoch.atement on the 7th of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements to parliament without being in the full possession of the facts and that was wrong. you essentially admitted that parliament had been misled in what we had been told. can you tell us to what extent we were misled and when you became aware of that? >> mr. chairman, thank you very much. i would like to say as well how sorry i am and how sorry we are to particularly the victims of illegal voice mail interceptions and to their families. . it's a matter of great regret of mine, my father's, and everyone at news corporation and these are standards. these actions do not live up to the standards that our company aspires to everywhere around the world and it is our determination to both put things right, make sure these things don't happen again, and to be the company that i know we have always aspired to be. as for my comments, mr. chairman, and my statement, which i believe was around the closure of the news of

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mr. james murdoch is the chairman. it is clear now that he personally, without board approval, authorized money to be paid by his company to silence people who had been hacked. and to cover-up criminal behavior in his organization. this is nothing short of an attempt to pervert the course of justice. >> reporter: murdoch's news international denies any cover-up. and in a statement, it says, it welcomes the call for a public inquiry. the atmosphere down here at westminster can only be described as febrile. rebecca brooks remains in her post. but her friendships with the likes of tony blair and david cameron is on the real strain, as the true scale of phone hacking becomes apparent. dan rivers, cnn, london. >> as we said, advertisers are trying to distance themselves now from the scandal. let's look a few of the names. ford was the first company to announce it was suspending advertising in the paper and taking its business elsewhere. that opened the floodgates. and many more companies have followed suit. virgin holidays

mr. james murdoch, you suggested earlier that the payments to mr. taylor were not notified at news corp level because of the finance thresholds. could you tell us a bit more about that. i understand it took your -- you had to agree for the payment to mr. taylor. could you tell us was that a financial level managerial decision? >> i'm very happy to discuss -- thank you, it's a good question. i'm very happy to discuss the matter of mr. taylor. the out of court settlement with mr. taylor was related to a voice mail interception that had occurred previously and was actually one of the counts, as i understand it, of the 2007 trial. so it's important to think back to 2008 to understand what we knew then, what i knew then and what the information was in the context. so the underlying interception was not a disputed fact. secondly, it was the advice and further to that i should say, it was the advice and the clear view of the company that if litigated, that the company would lose that case, that it was almost certain to lose that case because the underlying

james murdoch. can i also thank you for making yourself available to the committee this afternoon. >> we are more than prepared to talk to you. >> thank you. perhaps i might start with mrmes murdoch. you made a statement on the 7th of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements to parliament without being the part of the facts a and that was wrong. you said parliament was misled in has we had been told. can you tell us to what extent we were misled and when you became aware of that? >> mr. chairman thank you very much. first i would like to say as well just how sorry i am and how sorry we are to particularly the victims of illegal voicemail interceptions and to their family. it's a matter of grave regret of mine, my father's and everyone at news corporation and these are standards, these actions do not live up to the standards that our company aspires to everywhere around the world, and it is our determination to both put things right, make sure these things don't happen again, and to be the company that i know we've always aspired to be. as for my comments, mr. chairman and my statement, which i believe was around the closure of "the news of the world"

mr. davis? >> how many times would you speak to rupert murdoch when you were chief executive of news corp. international? >> i would speak to mr. murdoch and james murdoch much more regularly since i've become chief executive than i did when i was editor. >> once a day, twice a day? >> james murdoch and i have offices next to each other, although his travel schedule because of his wide responsibilities, and i would talk to rupert murdoch quite regularly. >> once a day, twice? can you give me any kind of? >> on average every other day but pretty regularly. >> you said everyone at "news of the world" was working hard to get them a be job and make sure that they didn't lose it which is fairly admirable. why is that not the same for tom crone? you said he left employment because his job sort nof longer existed at "news of the world." if you're trying to find a job for everybody at "news of the world," why is poor old tom crone -- why did you not find a job for him? >> there are some people that didn't want a job. in the case of tom crone, his title was labor manager. he wasn't, as mr. sheridan pointed out, just journalists. in the case of tom, as i

james murdoch. i also thank you for make yourselves available to the committee this afternoon. perhaps i might start with mr. james murdoch. you made a statement on the 7th of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements to parliament without being in full possession of the facts and that was wrong. you've sensely admitted parliament had been mislead in what we had been told. can you tell us to what extent we had been mislead and when you became aware of that. >> i would like to say as well just how sorry i am and how sorry we are to particularly the victims of illegal voicemail interception and their families it's a matter of great regrefort mine, my father's and everyone as the news corporation. and these are standards -- these actions do to the live up to the standards that our company aspires to as we are around the world. it's our determination to put things right, make sure these things don't happen again and to be the company that i know we have always aspired to be. as for my comments and my statement which i believe was around the closure of the news of the world * newspaper -- the s

mr. james murdoch. he made a statement on the seventh of july in which you stated that the paper had made statements that were wrong. qe essentially admitted the parliament had been misled on what we were told. can you tell us to what extent were we misled when we became aware of that? >> mr. chairman, thank you. i would like to say how sorry i am and how sorry we are for particularly the victims of illegal voicemail deceptions and it's a matter of great regret and everyone at the news corporation and these are standards these actions do not live up to the standards that our company aspires to everywhere around the world and it's our determination to put things right, make sure these things don't happen again and to be the company that i know that it has always aspired to be as for my comments mr. chairman which i believe was around the closure of the news of the world newspaper. >> i would like to say. >> stand closure of the world of the newspaper where i stated that the company hadn't been in possess

mr. james murdoch at the end of our last session. on the wider culture of hacking, bribe -- and bribing private detectives on fleet street, to what extent did the "news of the world" feel justified in its internal culture in using those practices because everybody was doing it? he said he won scoop of the year for a story about ulrika jonsson, and sven-goran eriksson. he actually gave a two toral on how one access yizzes by voicemail by punching in a set of default code. clearly, from the account that he gives, he did it routinely as editor of the "daily mirror." it was something that happened at the "daily mirror." he was of course also an exemployee of news international. we have been talking about operation motorman and the different amount of use tcha was made by steve whittamore by various members of fleet street. is it not obviously the case then that blagging, hacking, and the use of private investigators for illicit and lift purposes was an absolute culture on fleet street and that the "news of the world" participated in its

mr. murdoch uhis son james and rebecca brooke, ceo of news international, the uk unit face questioning in parliament. >> susie: this raises questions about succession. rupert murdoch has always talked about having one or all of his kids running the company. james, has been the heir apparent. what is the future of the murdoch dynasty? >> it's probably in jeopardy right now. the outcry against the murdochs in the uk has not really begun to penetrate the situation in the market here. but independent directors of news corp may be looking at that whole question of succession, and the murdoch dynasty. certainly the market has been downgrading over the years news corp because of the nepatistick approach bringing his three kids into the company. that has depressed the share price and market value of news corp. it's very likely that there may be somebody other than a murdoch running the company in the future. >> susie: let's talk a little. we were talking to a big institutional shareholder who is very concern body the outlook for this stock. would you buy news corp at $16. is this an opportunity f

>> well, they've hired end el man, if you look at the testimony, the lines from james murdoch and mr.over again were clearly scripted lines, it's an effort to turn it into a pr story, to make sure it's not a legal story, to make sure they don't talk about the bribery, the fact they're paying legal fees for people who were being indicted. and the fact that it's becoming a big case here of -- that their daughter, his daughter is being given $675 million for her company. murdoch's treating again like it's his own private piggybank. it's nice to be nice to your daughters, i have three of them. $675 million? >> but for bill o'reilly to say that it hasn't hit our shores and nobody in the company in the united states has been affected les hinton, is this a classic where fox will flat out lie on the air knowing there's a portion of their viewers that are just going to believe it because he is who he is, and who's saying it? >> it's pretty mystifying, the facts are so clear, in fact that i don't know how he can look at himself in the mirror and zs distort it that way, unless he really doesn't

james murdoch misled parliament in relation to some of the things he was saying. do james and rupert both retain your full support? >> i went public by supporting mr. rupert and mr. james after the hearings because i know them very well. i know mr. rupert since 20 years. i know james since more than 5 years ago, and i know them of being of high integrity, honesty, and honor. and i take their word for granted in front of the uk parliament presented by the culture committee. but at the end of the day, we have to let the investigation process take its procedure, and we have to see where this ends. so let's not anticipate what the investigation will come up with, and we have to wait for that. >> when we come back, i want to talk about the middle east, about the extraordinary uprisings in that region that we've seen thus far, and saudi arabia's role in all this, which is obviously crucial. the eagle flies at dawn. the monkey eats custard. price-line ne-go-ti-a-tor. so, you've been double crossed by other travel sites and now you want to try the real deal. yes, is it true that name your own price... ...got even easier? affirmative. we'll show you other p

james murdoch. the hearing wrapped up and they resumed after a brief interruption in london after a protester threw what appeared to be foam pie at mr. murdoch. here's what happened this morning. >> the last question and i will try to be a few very specific questions that i would like to ask you. starting with you mr. james murdoch, you've been over at length the differences and to pay the settlements, can you just tell me whether or not the settlements included a confidentiality clause and maybe the other settlements did not? [screaming] >> again, part of the disruption today at the phone hacking scandal in london, a parliament hearing that was underway and ran three hours or so. we're going to show that to you later on in our program schedule and we also want to remind you tomorrow on here on c-span2, we will be covering the statement of prime minister david cameron that will get underway at 6:30 eastern live here tomorrow morning on c-span2. we're hoping to take you live to the white house for the briefing with jay carney in just a couple minutes. again as the house prepares debate today on their balanced budget amendment and dis

mr. murdoch and james murdoch much more regularly sense i have become chief executive than i did when i was editor. >> once a day, twice a day? >> james murdoch and i have offices next to each other but this travel schedule because of his wide responsibilities, i would talk to rupert her duck quite regularly. >> once a day, twice? >> average every other day, but pretty regularly. >> you said news of the world *, every one was work hard to get them a job and make sure they didn't lose it. which ised a miles an hourable. why is that not the same for tom crohn? you said his job no longer existed that news of the world. why is -- why have you not found a job for him? >> there were some people that didn't want a job. in the case of tom krohn. his title was news international legal manager. he was as mr.shir -- as mr. hers mr. sheridan pointed out, he worked as the legal manager for the news of the world and the legal teams on all the other newspapers. so that was the current situation with tom. >> can i just ask you about nevelle thurback. did you know that he was a -- somebody who was an inform

mr. murdoch and james murdoch on the chief executive than i did. >> james murdoch and i have offices next to each other and because of his wide responsibilities and when i looked out to rupert murdoch quite regularly. >> once a day, twice a day, just really -- >> on average every of the day but pretty regularly. >> you said everyone at news of the world was working hard to get them a job, and actually is honorable why is that not tom crone? you said the reason he left the appointment was the joe lalinde to -- jobs no longer existed. so if you try to find a job for everybody why was tom crone -- why would you not find a job for him? >> there were some people that didn't want a job and in the case of tom crone, his title was news international manager and as mr. chariton pointed out it wasn't just journalists and was the secretary as many people in the news of the world. in the case of, as i explained, he predominantly for the last few years had worked as the legal manager for the news of the world and in fact the worker's legal teams. that was the situation of tom. >> can i just ask about

mr. murdoch and james murdoch more regularly than i did when i was executor. >> once a day or twice a dayhad offices next week other but we had travel schedules and wide responsibilities. i would talk to rupert murdoch quite regularly. >> once a day? twice a day? >> on average every other day but pretty regularly. >> "news of the world," everyone was working hard and i am not sure they didn't -- that is admirable. why is that not something for tom crone? he left employment because these jobs no longer existed at "news of the world". if you are trying to find a job for everybody at "news of the world" y did you not find a job for him? >> there are some people that didn't want a job. in the case of tom crone, he was legal manager and as mr. sheridan pointed out he drove secretaries of many -- in the case of tom as i explained he worked as manager of "news of the world" and the legal team on all the other newspapers. that was the current situation with tom. [inaudible] >> did you know when you were at "news of the world" -- somebody who was an informant to please? >> no. >> you didn't know?

murdoch's today and today was mr. cameron's. there's been a big shift in focus in the uk press. yesterday, of course, we had the extraordinary scenes where rupert murdoch and his son james spot by a very powerful committee of mps, and then mr. murdoch was pied in the face which tended to kind of pull the attraction away from him, but today the real focus has been on david cameron in the spotlight answering very uncomfortable questions but dealing with them head-on and silencing his critics, for now. >> all right. sal sally, thank you so much for that. >>> while eyes today were on prime minister david cameron in the house of commons as sally was telling us, many are still discussing the grilling of the murdochs. some good news, however, for the embattled media mogul, stocks rebounding. with more on this i'm joined by sarah ellison, contributing editor to "vanity fair" who has written extensively about the murdoch family. when we look at this, is this the beginning of the end of the murdoch empire? >> well, i certainly think that this is the beginning of the end of rupert murdoch's omnipotence and the myth that has surrounded him. his appearance yesterday really was quite

mr. murdoch to withdraw his bid for bskyb, and motion backed by the government. dow there will be the opportunity to say no and question james murdoch, his dad, and other executives if they greek to appear before a committee next week. what a thought. >> across the galactic, a u.s. senator has called for a probe into whether the hacking had extended to u.s. citizens and warned of severe consequences. the bbc says murdoch's activity is under scrutiny. >> this story is gaining traction intent of the u.s. the sanitary referred to is jay rockefeller, a democrat. he is the chairman of the commerce committee in the senate. he has put out a statement saying, "the hacking is offensive. a serious breach of a journalistic ethics. this raises serious questions of whether the company has broken u.s. law. i call upon the appropriate agencies to investigate to ensure americans have not have their privacy violated. i am concerned about the phone hacking and that it may have extended to 9/11 victims or other americans. the consequences will be severe." mr. rockefeller does not present any evidence to prove that the victims on 9/11 had their

mr. cameron joins james murdoch at the home of rebecca brooks. he did not ask -- answer me if bskyb was discussed. the day's news corp. more time to come forward to do a deal with the concerns. after further negotiation, he announced he was going to accept the undertakings and approve the acquisition. this was despite receiving public objection. these undertakings and of sky news being sold law and becoming a stand-alone company. a company entirely dependent on news corp. for funding. a further consultation took place followed by further negotiations between news corp. and oft. mr. hunt confirmed he was satisfied with the undertaking and intended to give the green light to the acquisition subject to a legally required 70 consultation which ended on the eighth of july. as people here will be aware, last week's journalists were told the mr. hunt would not be a will to reach a decision for months while he considered thousands of objections. on friday, david cameron said that government could not change its position because it was bound by legal cons

mr. breck of works -- rebekah brooks and james murdoch and rupert murdoch to answer the call from the select committee on culture media and sports to give evidence to this house next tuesday? >> my friend is completely right about this. these are people who are key figures in the newspaper industry and the media industry in britain and they should not be above the select committee. it is absolutely right that they come before the select committee. >> was he saying these things to rupert murdoch when he was eating his canapes three weeks ago? >> let me say to the hon. gentleman, this is opportunity for this house of commons to speak with one voice on these issues and that is what we should do today. i was going to say that the issues here go to the integrity of people working at news international. the chair of this house posies select committees said he was misled. the head of the press complaints commission said she was like to buy news international. james murdoch has admitted serious wrongdoing in the company, and there are allegations that news international new debt phone hacking was wi

>> aeft speculation james murdoch was involved in a cover-up being investigatened atted hush money paid to keep things quiet. as for mr. murdoch, i'm not sure he would know what was going on. he certainly denied it, but he created the cull dher whose logical conclusion was hacking into people's phones. >> why? >> because he believe above all us in a tabloid journalism, where you took no prisoners. >> scorched earth. >> destroy the opposition, no one would get a story ahead of you. he encouraged it. he defended it. he fostered it. when i worked for him, the only harsh words i had with him when i criticized the tabloids and he would come on to the phone from new york or los angeles and start being grumpy and unpleasant, because he saw himself as the last defender of that style of journalism. >> susan? >> clearly the murdoch corporation has been run by him with an iron fist. and so the question i have, if his family isn't going to take over, if his son doesn't last much longer, what happens to the corporation? can it really run without that firn fist at the helm? >> here's a radical idea. the investor, shareholders take

james murdoch? >> you know, ah! >> mr. matthew hancock. >> thank you very much, mr. speaker. doesn't it raise serious questions about how the previous government operated that members opposite think it would be appropriate for the prime minister to be briefed on operational police matters. and don't the emails that were released show just what a professional his chief of staff is. >> the judgment he reached was backed in advance by the permanent secretary at number 10 and has been subsequently backed by the leading police officers and indeed by the head of the home affairs select committee. >> andrew miller, returning to neil wallace, clearly, the prime minister said it was only sunday that he knew about mr. wallace's role. but others around him knew of mr. wallace's role well before that. doesn't he feel that down then including by mr. coulson? >> the point i make to the best of your knowledge the first i knew was sunday. we are getting to the bottom of what this formal advice was and when we have information about that, just as we've been transparent about all the media mee

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murdoch and his son james. both denied any knowledge of the phone hacking scandal and dodged questions about megapayments to victims on the receiving end. >> mr. murdoch do you accept that ultimately you are responsible for this whole fiasco? >> no. >> first of all, i would like to say as well just how sorry i am. >> my big question today, will one of the murdochs take the fall for the phone hacking scandal? of course you can reach me on facebook and twitter. to answer that question, let's bring in a reporter for "the washington post" style section. it's good to see you today, paul. what do you think? do you think that we're going to see either rupert or james take the fall? >> at this point barring any other revelations that's a big if i don't think so. the murdoch family controls about 40% of news corp. it has the board pretty much in its pocket. unlikely that they will be forced to resign as a result of this. in the absence of anything else happening. >> his board of directors whose responsibility has been to shareholders has been rather meek and silence on this scandal. now you have a director, tom perkins telling "the wall street journal

james murdoch will be next. he was involved in trying to deal with the scandal over the last few years. richard, incredibly there are even some suggestions here that mrlose control of fox tv if his people are found to have breached u.s. bribery laws. >> the unraveling continues. the latest for us. thank you. >>> casey anthony less than one day away from being free. could she be safer behind bars? >>> and soccer buzz. will the u.s. women be on top of the world by the end of the weekend. a preview of the big game and a prediction straight ahead. we set our goals higher than anyone. perdue is the first and the only chicken company to have usda-process-verified programs for fresh all-natural chicken. [ joe ] we never have used steroids or hormones of any type, and always raised cage-free. we're trying to make a better chicken. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... >>> welcome back to msnbc saturday. i'm in for alex witt. the this morning republicans in

you then see james murdoch get out the chair like this. now, at first i couldn't tell whether mr. murdoch sr. had been hit. you can then -- in later pictures if you look close, you can see the foam. more than one person suggested that, you know, this could have been a brick, it could have been, you know, nails, it could have been much more serious. you have to bear in mind if it had been anything like that, it wouldn't have got into the room. we don't know how he got in with some shaving foam. he could have said he was just been home doing the weekly shopping. who knows? it was serious, but not because it could have been a much more vicious attack. it was serious because it was a disgrace. because anybody coming to give evidence in the mother of parliaments has a right to do so with dignity and in courtesy. >> amen to that. and that is -- those disruptions something we see many times in the u.s. congress as well. richard quest thanks for your remarkable reporting today on this remarkable story. thank you. >>> let's dig deeper and continue, joanne litman is a columnist for the dail

mr. fairly, can't speak for them. >> stewart cutner? >> the same goes. i can't speeblg for them. >> reporter: critics would call this stonewalling. james murdoch was clear on one point. >> i would just like to say as well how sorry i am and how sorry we are to particularly the victims of illegal voice mail interceptions and to their families. >> reporter: at times rupert murdoch appeared overwhelmed or perhaps unsure how to answer, awkward silences following specific questions. >> mr. murdoch, at what point did you find out that criminality was endemic at "news of the world"? >> reporter: the overwhelming impression the murdochs gave was two men that were at best out of touch with what was happening at their company. at worst, willfully ignorant of what was happening at "news of the world." >> are you familiar with the term willful blind snns. >> mr. sanders, would you car to elaborate? >> it was a term that came up in the enron scandal. willful blindness is a legal term. it states that if there is knowledge you could have had and should have had but chose not to have you are still responsible. >> mr. sanders, do you have a question respectful

murdoch's phone hacking scandal. he and his son james and rebekah brooks were grilled by lawmakers today. the elder murdoch again apologizing but refusing to take the rap. >> mryou accept ultimately you are responsible for this whole fiasco? >> nope. >> you're not responsible? who is responsible? >> the people that i trusted to run it, and then maybe the people they trusted. >> no apology, and no stepping down. >> have you considered resigning? >> >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted, not saying, who i don't know at what level, but let me down, and i think they have behaved disgracefully, betrayed the company and me. and it's for them to pay. i think that frankly i'm the best person to clean this up. >> speak of cleaning up, the proceedings were interrupted briefly when a protestor delivered a shaving cream pie. take a look at this. keep your eye on the lower left hand corner of your screen. it happens pretty quickly. >> oh! >> and here it is "ly again in slow motion. here comes the pie. and that pink blur that you see over there, that's rupert murdoch's wife wendy who leaps across the table taking a poke at the pieman. then a bobbie arr

the protectiveness of the murdoch clan with wdy batting away and james again and again trying to get tom watson was on his ankle just chewing awide and saying if i uldn't, mr. watson said , he ran the company i want to talk to him. i do think that there was a suggestion in bloomberg rerted thaterhaps news corporation was switching. i never bought that. >> charlie: i didn't either. i didn't believe it whether the story is true or not. >> if i may defend my colleagues i can say it's a well-sourced story and the story in response was not a denial. both responses could very well be true. >> but it was framed the board is sitting to see how he's going to do at the hearings today. we all knew he wouldn'to great. it wasn't like he was battling for his job today. james may have been but certainly rupert was not. >> i'm not sure i agree with that. i think that what ever good bod prepares for the worse and if there had been some sort of conflagration or lost his temper or seemed out of it it would have been irresponsible of the board not to talk about that. >> with no specialist knowledge here but my strg hunch is that we were seeing today probably the end of the ru

james apologized for phone hacking at the family's "news of the world" newspaper. >> it's a matter of great regret. >> reporter: politicians fired questions at the murdochs all on live tv. >> mr. murdoch do you accept ultimately you are responsible for the whole fiasco? >> no. >> you are not responsible? who is responsible? >> the people that i trusted to run and then maybe the people they trusted. >> reporter: murdoch employees are accused of tapping the voicemails of murder victims, politicians, even the families of 9/11 victims. former "news of the world" editor rebekah brooks also took the hot seat and chose her words carefully. she is already under police investigation. >> things went badly wrong at the "news of the world" and we are doing our best now to sort it out. >> reporter: a separate committee grilled london's former chief of police who resigned because of allegations police took bribes from murdoch reporters. charlie d'agata, cbs news london. >>> an hour ago congress passed a tea party-backed debt reduction plan to cut $6 trillion in spending and require a balanced budget amendment to keep the government from defaulting on its loans. president obama says he will

james wants the top job at news corp. himself, but for the moment that position isn't open. >> mr. murdoch, have you considered resigning? >> no. >> why not? >> because i feel that people i trusted have let me down. i'm the best person to clean this up. >> reporter: the murdochs were specifically asked if reporters at "news of the world" hacked the cell phones of 9/11 victims. rupert murdoch answered that question himself. he said, "i have seen no evidence that that took place." matt? >> all right. stephanie gosk in london this morning, stephanie, as always, thank you very much. michael wolff is the editorial director of "adweek" magazine. and martin bashir is host of "the martin bashir show" on msnbc. guys, good morning to both of you. >> good morning, matt. >> michael, let me start with you. yesterday you said you thought there was the potential for a complete meltdown on the part of rupert murdoch. you watched the testimony as everyone else did. did he help or hurt himself with members of parliament and shareholders in his company? >> he held a certain kind of ground here. and he did it

mr. wallace in phone hacking. let me say unequivocally i did not and have no reason to do so. >> all eyes will be on parliament tomorrow when rupert murdoch and his son james get grilled by lawmakers. we're live in london. surely rupert murdoch will be asked about the cozy relationship between his news organization and police. >> there's no doubt that he's going to be asked about that and a lot more contessa. this story keeps rolling along. and changing it seems hour by hour. and all points now are pointing towards -- all roads are going towards obviously the murdoch family. that makes four high profile resignations. a few hours ago scotland yard's number two jamesuate resigned again under this rolling impression and increasing public and media pressure. yates if you recall he was the one who was in charge of reopening the phone hacking investigation back in 2009. he decided not to do so at the time. saying there just wasn't enough fresh evidence. and that as you say on the heels of his boss' resignation last night paul stevenson who was the head of psychologicalland yard. we've seen ten arrests to date and some high profile arrests as well, rebeck ka broo

mr. secretary fox. >> the chairman of the culture, media, and sports committee announced yesterday he's asked news corporation chairman rupert murdoch, his son james, and rebecca -- rebekah brooks to testify. c-span will cover it if that happens. you can watch other events on phone hacking on our web site at c-span.org. >> this weekend on booktv on c-span2 on "afterwords." jane blair relives her experiences on the front lines in iraq. in railroaded, the impact of the transcontinental and in eisenhower 1956, david nichols look at the suez canal crisis, eisenhower faces a change. look for the complete booktv schedule at booktv.org and sign up for booktv alert, weekend schedules in your inbox. >> this is the great hall here at the library of congress. the largest library in the world. did you ever wonder if you were to read one book a day in the library how long it would take you? you'll find lots of answers in c-span's original documentary. the library of congress. airing this monday night. we'll tour the iconic jefferson building, including the great hall and the reading room. we'll show treasures, sound in the rare books, and special collection, i

rupert murdoch and his son james along with former news international exec ever becker brooks testified that the parliamentary committee about allegations of phone hacking and police bribery connected to mr murdochs newspaper. that is live at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span3. the supreme court is now available as a standard and enhanced e-book at --

mr. james murdoch i've read the differences in the settlement zipf hawken can you tell me whether or not this included the confidentiality clause and others did not?