mr. mylar or i recall that conversation or what the conversation was about at that point. >> but it's very clear under the impression that was left to instruct. >> he says that colin mylar spoke to james murdock, no options, wait for the opinion or something of the like. it doesn't tall say that i instruct mr. mylar to speak to the opinion. >> but you expect that they appear petty detail on the merits of the case for june, 2008? >> yes, i've now seen that. >> and the opinion stated that there is overwhelming evidence for the involvement of a number of news group newspaper journalists and the illegal inquiries into the naim in addition there is substantial surrounding material about the extensive journalist attempt to obtain access to information he legally information to the individuals in the light of these facts there is the case that there is a culture of illegal information used in order to produce stories of the publication? >> i don't have the quotation in front of me that he did provide an opinion that isn't shown to me at the time, nor was it discussed in those terms in any way. and his it concludes there is sufficient evidence to suggest that there is widespread activity and the lega