mr. marie? -- murray? >> jarvis murray, taxi services. what mr. alexander has said is basically correct. the mta position is that when he came up for his medallion in 2008, he did not qualify. there has been no evidence he qualified during that time. at that time, he needed to drive three out of four bang years to show he qualified. -- three of four years to show the qualified. he did not. if the question is whether he qualifies if he were to come up today, as mr. alexander stated, he would qualify. there is no debate he has given since 2008. in to the five and 2006, he did not drive enough hours. in 2007, he was not in the country and did not drive. 2008 was the only year he presented at that time where it could be shown he had badly driven. for the mta, the issue for us -- if you would like to choose that he is eligible as of today, that is one story. at the time of his application, that is a different issue. we are not prepared to unilaterally allow the wait time. if you choose to do so, the mta will not question that decision. commissioner fung: your last brief did not rehash 2008. y