mr. jeffrey polk was there. mr. pen -- [inaudible] wasn't there, so we signed the report and notifying him this was a second inspection that the violation occurred again. >> who signed? mr. polk signed or the other -- the second time, please. >> the second time was mr. polk. he was identifying himself as mr. polk, otherwise i wouldn't know he was there. >> have we seen copies of these signed documents? >> [off mic] >> does the department have it? >> yes, both of us have it. >> can you show us on the overhead that document? not his, yours. >> oh, the original copy? >> yes. this was like the notice of violation on march 2nd. so as you can see, one of the senior inspectors also signed but we can't all sign. >> can you move it up? we can't see the signatures. >> the notice of violation, there's no signature for the owner or representative of the property or the manager, i mean, the owner of the massage establishment but because it was understood among the -- >> can you speak into the microphone please, ms. kim. >> okay.