mr. jensen mention the water supply study they were doing. that is information that will be coming forward and affecting how we look at our urban water management plan's wholesale section in 2015, which we are really talking about. i would like to make one other comment. mr. brooks talk about a lot of different issues, but we did warn the bay area water stewards in 2004, and we have been meeting with them, and we have been very open. we have had these open conversations about water supply, where our next increments of water would come from, so there are no real surprises. now, we're just further refining those issues as we move forward. all of these things were in the programmatic environmental impact report of different alternatives, and one of the things we will be working on is what are the alternatives if we are going to make a decision about post-2018? commissioner vietor: thank you. that is helpful. commissioner moran: a couple of commons -- one is on the retail side of things, i have spent some time working with staff, understanding ki