mr. jensen for pulling back on that. it does give me a chance to comment on the annual report for the wiip that was presented last december, i wasn't able to come, but i thought it was a great report. really exciting things happening throughout the watershed. we personally appreciated the puc's contribution tox acquisition of dos rios at tuolumne and san joaquin. that will be a [speaker not understood] to the san joaquin river wildlife refuge. i want to congratulate staff, especially tim ramirez who is here for the good work they've been doing. we had a good meeting up in moccasin on friday, [speaker not understood]. progress is made on the upper tuolumne river [speaker not understood] system. it is a little behind schedule. every three years, or 20-year. progress is being made, and this is really all helping the puc meet the obligations of the environmental stewardship policy. so, we really appreciate you taking that seriously and let's keep moving on these. ~ wiip projects. thank you. >> thank you, peter. mr. jeff mill

mr. jensen in the future as well as his successor. >> okay. and if, if for some reason it looks as though we are not going to be able to come to conclusions on time for the next rate cycle, would you please let us know that? >> we will. >> my expectation is that we will. >> point well taken. thank you. >> thank you. any other comments on communications? >> i do. >> yes. >> i wanted to draw the attention to the pipeline, water pipeline assessment. it was very shocking to me to read this. i hope everybody did. and i thank david briggs for putting this together. we certainly see problems. i mean, these pipes are older than i am. so, i know that -- >> they're 29 years old? [laughter] >> amazing. >> so, it really is very eye opening to read and i wasn't aware of. so, i hope everybody did review that. >> thank you, commissioner. any other comments on communications? all right. any public comments on communications? i think we have a special introduction. >> i just wanted to possibly follow-up on the date issue just before we leave that, may 9th, and

mr. jensen mentioned, that is done primarily for savings. what that means is we've been able to take out that rate component from our rate setting and i'll show you what that means in terms of numbers in a moment. another reason why the rates are going down for the wholesale customers is that they're buying more water. so, as compared to the current budget year, we had budgeted about 137 million, 137 mgd in terms of volume. and what we're seeing in the current year is that's going to be closer to 143. and, so, what you'll see in the chart here is we're projecting a little better news in the current fiscal year '13 and we're projecting that forward into the budget year for next year. so, again, better news in terms of water delivery, more sales means lower rate. >> is that not increase of the knit customer base or is that an increase of utilization by the current customer base or both? >> it's probably both. i couldn't speak to what's going on on the retail side in terms of the wholesale customers, but i can tell you they're buying more water