like similar to what happened with carl jensen, who were forced, they were evicted to their homes, and something happened to them. something similar happened to to mrs maria's husband because of the stress. we do not want those things to happen to the elderly. please do not take the rent control. when we're living in san francisco, rent control units is all we have in order to sustain ourselves, maybe sure we hasure -- make sure we have a place to live and stay in san francisco. thank you. >>vice president richards: thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello. my name is raul, and i live in apartment 3 for 27 years, and also i'm here on behalf of my wife. she could not be here. we have six windows. and all the rooming for that apartment, it's by the garages. how does that work? and also, i've been told they're going to add apartment two to three. why need two kitchens, why need two bathrooms? i'm happy the way they live. they can keep it the way they were. and also, the garages, we're using them. he said the garages are empty. i'm using the garage with another three people, so the garage has been used. they're not empty. thank you. >>vice president ri