entered this into the record, a power point presentation that was given on september 20, 2006 by mr. jim press who was the president, i guess that was your predecessor, mr. inaba, is that correct? >> yes. correct. >> and this document has a group of it looks like it was a slide show presentation. could someone from toyota provide information to us as to where this presentation was given and to whom it was given? >> i do not personally know that document. but we will certainly get back to you with more information about that. >> is there anybody from toyota who's familiar with this document who's here today? >> not from the three of us. >> okay. well, let me read to you, because i'm reviewing these documents, mr. chairman, as they've been presented to us. this is a slide show presentation about a new era for toyota and tma in north america. and it goes through several issues, including safety issues. there are notations in the back here which are notes to this slide presentation. and on the document that is -- that has its ending bate number 25, there is reference to slide number 25. it s

it is mr. jim popkin, former producer for "nbc nightly news" and the founder of seven oaks media group where he is now executive. before i read his formal bio, we have worked with him more many years and he did some very, very important breaking news items through "nightly news" of whistleblowers and always did credible, effective and balanced job and it was just good to know that there were producers who were interested not only in the story but also in protecting the whistleblower and getting hard, sometimes controversial news out there. jim worked at several senior positions for nbc news over a 14-year period. he was a senior investigative producer and oversaw a team of correspondents and producers that broke major stories for nbc news and politics and wall street scandals, defense scandals. he was an on-air correspondent and his stories appeared on nbc "today show." cnbs. msnbc. mr. popkin has won four national emmy wayards for outstanding journalism and was a finalist for the national magazine

mr. jim martin, the founder and chair of 60 plus. >> thank you very much. i had to get off of that tour. [laughter] i thought i was in great shape. i run a group called 60 +. i am now 70 +. today's was enough. but i did rejoin them up in boston. nbc2 things on tax day. fourth of all, -- first of all, our spokesperson is pat boone. the tax you for everything while you are alive. i have to tell you something. to stop and think about it. -- just stop and think about it. it is an uncle sam. it is not even a blood relative. i want to say to those seniors out there that there is a tsunami headed for washington. it is a senior tsunami. unless it subsides, there will be a new line of politicians looking for work to come november. [applause] one difference between my seniors group, 60 plus, we have about 5.5 million supporters around the country. when people talk about aarp, i said, "just so that there is no mistake, aarp, the association against retired persons, that is who they are." [applause] they are in it for the dollars that they will make on the insurance in

. >> caller: boo-yah, mr. jim. >> boo-yah, chief. how can i help? >> caller: i -- goldman sachs today and it was pretty nerve-racking to put it mildly until of course the time you get on the interview with erin and things kind of settled down and i felt settled down. i've been contemplating making a purchase of a stock that's an investment bank. it's called morgan stanley, and i'm sure you know what fund that is that's having a risk issue right now. they're about to write down a loss. writing down the loss -- i get feeling they might just be reinventing themselves and become a good buy. >> oh, bill, this is a tough call. when i read about that loss, i said how could everyone else be on the mend, be on the repair, and these guys still have such a big loss? i was disappointed. i come out on the other side of the trade. i am bearish about that. and let's remember, those of us who follow the options market, and i do closely, because goldman sachs, the expiration occurred today, there were a lot of people who were what's known as selling puts. that meant

mr. smith, welcome to "mad money." good to see you. >> thank you, jim. >> sit down. >> thank you. >> they wrote you off, they didn't believe. tell us about how you could be so gutsy as to do an acquisition that everybody panned that all of a sudden now everyone's saying they thought of? >> well, we thought it was a great idea from the start and we focused on doing our due diligence and just doing the right thing. >> now, how did it transform -- a lot of people think ciena they don't know anything, they think it's like the crayon color in the box. talk about what ciena was before, what ciena was after, and why this was so important. >> well, ciena before was a really specialist player in basically facilitating the internet. as you say, sort of the circulatory system for the internet and mobile networks. now with this acquisition if gives us global scale and we're the number one in north america and as you say number three globally. it gives us the ability to invest and to scale the networks up for our customers.

mr. jim martin, the founder and chair of 60-plus. [applause] >> thank you very much. i had to get off of that tour. i thought i was in great shape. i'm in a group called 60-plus, i'm now in my 70's, 07-plus, but two days was enough. i did rejoin them up in boston. let me say two things on tax day. first of all, our spokesman, a guy you may have heard of, a great entertainer named pat boone, pat boone is our spokesman and today on tax day the death tax, you know, they tax you for everything while you're alive, we say, kill the death tax, don't wound it, get rid of it. [applause] because i got to tell you something, the first claim ant in line just stopped and think about it, it's uncle sam, not even a blood relative. we don't think that's right. let me close on this note. i've been saying since last august to those seniors out there that there's a tsunami headed toward washington. it's a senior citizen tsunami and unless it subsides there's going to be a lot of politicians looking for a new line of work. come november. [applause] one difference between my senior group,

with whom you talked about jim mcdougall. mr. clark got to know him during the last years or months of jim mcdougall's life. that story is very unsettling and brand new, i think, nobody ever told the story about jim mcdougall's death. >> i got access to jim mcdougall's psychiatric records and his history in the prison with the permission of his estate, and dr. clarke, a wonderful person, really cared about him and spent a lot of time with him in prison. and there is no question that, you know, he came to believe that there was some grand conspiracy by the clintons and others to get him in this prison. but, his death was just tragic, and it was -- there were a lot of unexplained circumstances. i do not believe the clintons had anything to do with this and, incidentally, this is during march of 1998, so you know, because you were involved in -- with the clinton white house, they were focused completely on the monica lewinsky matter and were not worrying about jim mcdougall in prison in fort worth, texas. however, did people in the p

mr. unsworth, great to have you on "mad money." thank you, sir. >> thank you, jim>> where are we on the adoption here? where are we versus where we could be five years from now in terms of the smart grid and are we behind or ahead of other countries? >> i think we're significantly -- the united states is significantly ahead of the rest of the world. the thing we don't have in the united states is an energy policy. and if you look at what we've got in europe, for example, there's a smart -- it's an energy service directive that mandates smart metering by the year 2020. and so they do have this mandate in place. and there's approximately 145 million electricity meters in europe that need to be replaced. when you think about where we're going, though, from our company standpoint, it's not just about electricity. it's actually about water and gas. and if you think about some of the new products we've just launched, we've got a gas ami solution we just laushd, and we've also got our a.m.i. gas solution. so it's not just about electricity. even though with electricity th

jim. >> thanks. >>> coming up, did he ever station in rio we show thank you areas of brazil dealing with flooding and landslides. >> it is important for mrs. obama to bring people in. that even includes us. >>> jim vance sat down for an interview with the first lady this week. he will tell us about that. right after this. >>> president obama and russian president medvedev signed the new start treaty today at the nuclear summit in prague. the agreement cuts each country's nuclear's stockpile by a third. it will cut in half the number of nuclear each country has like submarines and missiles. the treaty still needs to be voted on by the u.s. senate and russia's legislature. >>> back here in washington jim vance was invited to the white house yesterday. >> interviewing the first lady and he is here to el us about that. >> wonderful event. fir first lady michelle obama and family have been neighbors in d.c. just over a year now. during the short visit at the white house yesterday, she told us some of the things that she enjoys most. >> some of the best stuff i do here. when i'm working with kids and have them in my garden, i'm out at their sch

mr. crane. always good to talk to you, as jim cramer says he was one of your classmates. let's get straight to this issue if we could. everyone in your industry makes the case for how nuclear energy can be incredibly safe and they mean that not just in terms of explosions, but also in terms of who can get their hands on it. when you hear the president making comments like that, can you lay out exactly why nuclear power plants are not a risk at all? >> well, i think the connection between the risk of nuclear attack going up -- because erin, as i think you said, there is fissile material, weapons-grade material and nuclear weapons in other countries in the world. i mean that may be a strategic fact but the united states commercial nuclear industry, which 30 years ago, 40 years ago, a decision was made to use a fuel low-grade uranium. it is not particularly a well-suited fuel for bomb material. and so i think the connection between the two is pretty remote. >> right. because of the level of enrichment. i mean -- we'll just give you this example. united ash emirate d ash emir

: you spoke about the psychologists from the prison richard clark with whom you talked about jim mcdougal. mrrker got to know him during the last year's four months of jim mcdougal's life. that story is very unsettling and brand new i think. nobody has ever told the story about his death. >> guest: i got access to mcdougal's psychiatric rickards and his history in the prison with the permission of his estate and dr. clark a wonderful person care about them and spent a lot of time with him in prison and there is no question he came to believe there was a grand conspiracy by the clintons and others to get him in this prison but his death was tragic and there were a lot of unexplained circumstances i do not believe the clintons had anything to do with it and incidentally this is during march of 1998 so you know because you were involved for the clinton white house they were focus completely on the monica lewinsky matter and not worried about jim mcdougal in prison in fort worth texas however did people in the present play games with this guy and give him a hard time? he ended up in salvatrucha c

mr. solomon here. >> thank you so much for having me here. it is a great pleasure to be alongside jim and rich whom i have admired throughout my career for doing the type of journalism that they have created time and time again. i've known throughout my career that whistleblowers have been an important part of my career but i didn't really how important until about a year ago a young graduate student called me and said did you know you did 377 stories that involved whistleblowers and i said no, that's not possible and she counted them up and sent me a stack. her math is pretty good, i guess. over the course of 25 years, i've interacted with whistleblowers almost weekly and for every story i've written, just like jim said and rich saids there is probably three that i passed on because i couldn't validate or verify or trust the information. it is a hit-and-miss proposition duthe value of what whistleblowers do is essential to our democracy and i think journalists when they play the facilitating role add to that process and add value to showing what's right and what's wroing and giving t

mr. solomon here. [applause] >> thank you so much for having me here and it's a great pleasure to be alongside jim and rituals i've admired throughout my career for doing the this type of journalism that they've committed time and time again. and i cannot drive my career that whistleblowers have been an important part of my career, but i didn't really understand how important until about a year ago young graduate student from st. lewis university i think it was called me and said did you know you did 377 stories that involved whistleblowers and i said no, that's not possible. she covered them up and sent me a stack in her mouth is pretty good i guess. but over the course of 25 years, i've interacted and for every story i've written just like jim said it is probably true that i pass on because i couldn't validate or verify or trust the information. so if they had and miss proposition , but the value of what whistleblowers do when they stand forward and bring wrong to the public's attention essential to our democracy and i think journalists, when with a plate of facilitating role, add to that process an

mr. president don't kill the golden goose appeal to the fact that much of new york city tax revenue comes from wall street. what about it, jim is the president trying to kill the golden goose and are the press joining him bashing? >> i think president obama is trying to have it both ways. trying to take their money and take it again in 2012. >> 15 million dollars during the campaign. >> appoint many, many people just from goldman sachs to the treasury depth where the fox guards the hen house. at the same time trying to get credit for being a populous. it is quite a trick and headlines prove that -- >> the left has been tacking wall street, i guess i should -- has been attacking wall street, i guess i should say the press is attacking wall street. >> wait, repeat yourself. >> the press has been attacking wall street as long as republicans have been attacking big government maybe longer. is it popular to pile on at a time like this? >> of course, it is dog bites man. it is not new. and it wouldn't had been possible had this great golden goose not laid a huge leaden egg. what is the president is doing given his poll numbers whi

jim demint. he's campaigning to save the republican party's conservative soul. an extremely noble effort, mr. demint. welcome back to "the kudlow report." >> thank you, larry. it's great to be with you. i, too, hope we pass a financial regulation package. i think there is a lot of places we can agree on it. but unfortunately it doesn't really address the problem. i hope we can work that into the bill. >> i want to get to your saving the gop's soul and before it's over i hope you will save my soul as well. give me something on financial regulation. in your judgment, senator, for your vote personally, what's the biggest sticking point now? >> well, for me it doesn't address the lending criteria and the subprime problem that caused the problem. also, it perpetuate it is bailout by setting aside a group of companies that are too big to fail. i think the democrats are in agreement we need to fix that. they also, larry, as you have pointed out on your show, expand government control of community banks and a lot of businesses that have nothing to do with the collapse of our financial system. we can

great incident you're referring to what he called up the ghost of jim fisk after jim fisk had been shot by the rival of his mrsso he asked him a few questions about stock and, of course, the edges made no sense at all. vanderbilt said what are you talking about? all right, we will see who's right, you are me. he is arguing with the ghost of jim fisk. then they start to joke with each of the how to like thing on the other side? this cassette you will find out soon enough. so it's a hilarious incident and it shows he found comfort with seances but i don't think he made any decisions on it. but that rivalry, there's a quote that i never found, a good source for it. for bad about saying like so many of vanderbilt coach, but it's a one of my favorites because it does summarize his attitude towards jay gould that he supposedly said it never pays to kick us can't. i unfortunate i wish i could document it. i couldn't document it. i looked it up in a book i would tell you now. because it was his attitude towards jay gould. >> a good attitude to have. >> in the end though i have to say in the most important battles he e

mr. bullish" sent only to my mom and dad. not a lot of readership, but readership that was quality. here's one from paul. jimw that the travel industry is starting to gain strength, is it positioned to benefit -- i've been following this stock. i don't want to recommend it here. i think you should purely play it with boeing. we're in a multiyear cycle, let's not outthink it. here's one from carmine in, i saw that you recently recommended akami, but i have one concern, its gaap, is about 50% less than the non-gaap eps. on the most recent conference call, they said these would be used up in late 2010. how important is something like this in determining earnings going. carmine, you should be worried, it does look like that akami is overvalued. however, akamai has great growth, at the heart of the internet tsunami, and i they these products will be able to rule on the web when it gets even faster. great quality work by you. "mad money" after the break. (announcer) we're in the energy business. but we're also in the showing-kids- new-worlds business. and the startup-capital- for-barbers business. and the this-won

mr. cramer, please let me answer. you had your chance. >> take bake user charge that i took money, and i will. >> okay. make your case and jimill respond. >> it's quite possible that goldman had an equity position, they probably wrote it off on the closing date, so they chose to lose a few million and make a hundred million. these deals were very complicated. i don't do politics, so i can't comment on the politics of this deal. goldman sachs was clearly in the know. they knew what they were doing. in fact if they were defending themselves, they would have to make a case that they didn't know, which i think too highly of goldman sachs to think that they didn't know what they were doing. if that's the defense they will undertake, then so be it. these deals were made to be shorted. we don't have times to go into details. i want to remain shallow in deference to mr. cramer. >> i asked you to please not make personal -- >> what is this nonsense. >> the details were completely difficult to understand. it's clear the bank did not understand them. mr. cramer is correct on this. they should have done their own research. but they did

host: next call is from jim in snyder, new york, republican. caller: mr.ry. you are taking a very unpopular stance and i admire you. let me explain where i'm coming from. you are talking about speculators as far as short selling. you probably are aware of where this came about as far as how market markets were we the farmer brought his grain to market somebody would give him a set pri price. that would ensure he was able to pay çbills. now what happens is i think that the speculators are actually those people who are banking on their housesç in california, i las vegas, thinking that they would never go down in price, speculating on the fact that oh my gosh i'm getting 5%, 10% a year. whereas what you are doing keeps the market really in regulation. guest: yes. the interesting thing is in my book i talk a lot about how the shorting is really the police force. we want the best information. the reason why america has the best capital markets is because we have the best information. the reason we have the best information is in mirrors the form of government

mr. mendenhall, good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> you don't get called the biggest, greenest company for nothing. give us a synopsis. >> well, jimok at is building a sustainable society. what we've heard from is government's municipalities, community, corporations, large or small is sustainability is important, but it's about doing good by doing well. right? so you can do good and you can do well. we believe as you begin to look at the portfolio that the company is strategically built from hardware, software, networking to services, that we have the capability to help you do that. and you're going to do well, but you're going to drop to the bottom line some great numbers. >> okay. so how much of your green thrust is to make money? and how much of it is to just be a good citizen. what's the ratio? >> well, i would say they go hand in hand. so i wouldn't say that there's a ratio we use within the company. i mean, for us, i think it's about, you know, when you begin to look at building sustainable societies, you look at key vertical industries, energy being one. so we really look at energy and we say, when you look at the greenhous

mr. mayor. top of the first, no score. craig stamin facing youkilis with a man on. he leaves that up and over the plate. youkilis crushes this to left for a two-run homer. jimiggleman thinking, come on, man. come on. help me out here. red sox take a 2-0 lead like that. top of the sixth, 4-0 red sox. sean burnett on the hill. pudge rodriguez sets up outside. but the pitch is not outside, over the inside half of the plate. bill hall sends it down the right field line. mike lowell and jason varitek come around to score. boston on top 6-0. hall ends up with a two rbi triple. bottom of six, still 6-0 sox. ryan zimmerman up with runners on the corner against daisuke matsuzaka. zimmerman drives one to right, check out josh redick. simply glovely. desmond tags and scores, but that's as close as the nats get. they lose it 6-1. the games count for real on monday. the natsome opener set for 1:05 against the phillies. arrive early, the president is throwing out the first pitch. >>> college lacrosse last night, a heavyweight prime time match-up. maryland against the best team in the land, the number one ranked virginia cavaliers. the last time to terps and cavs played i

mr. obama's top current economic aides. more goldman alums were currently in high positions in washington. representative jim hines currently sits on the house financial services committee. overseeing financial companies. hines is a former goldman vice president. gary gensler is the current chairman of the u.s. commodities futures trading commission and his office is expected to have a big hand in the future regulation of the derivatives market. he's also a goldman sachs alum. and many people might recognize this man, neel kashkari. he was the point man on t.a.r.p. funds, helping to dole out some. on top of this, there are more than 40 former congressional staffers and federal agency employees who registered in 2009 to lobby on behalf of goldman sachs. that's according to the center for responsive politics. >> i guess the basic question is, what does this portend for future regulation of any of these markets? i guess in particular goldman sachs. but for the rest of them as well. >> when you take a look at this, candy, it really does speak to the power and influence of washington firms. even as congress is co

mr. paulson may not have wanted to tell anybody their position, but not everybody is so afraid. we'll have the trades next. >> and a quick reminder, all the recommendations expressed by jim cramer are solely his and not the opinions of cnbc. and may have been previously disseminated by him. before acting on a recommendation, consider its suitability for your circumstances and consider seeking advice from your own financial adviser. geico's been saving people money and who doesn't want value for their dollar? been true since the day i made my first dollar. where is that dollar? i got it out to show you... uhh... was it rather old and wrinkly? yeah, you saw it? umm fancy a crisp? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. national car rental? that's my choice. because with national, i roll past the counter... and choose any car in the aisle. choosing your own car? now, that's a good call. go national. go like a pro. >>> welcome back to "street signs." with your daily reality check. first-time home buyers accounted for nearly 50% of home sales in march. that's a new record according to campbell surveys. it surpasses the high last october

jim sciutto, abc news, london. >>> president obama is making his first big move towards his goal for a nuclear-free world, signing an arms reduction treaty with russia tomorrow. mr. obama and russian president medvedev are meeting in prague. both leaders agreed each country will cut the number of strategic nuclear warheads by one-third. it's a major step ahead for the obama administration trying to improve relations with russia. >>> back here at home, nike is out with a new commercial featuring tiger woods, just as he's about to tee off at the masters. woods is scheduled to start his first round this afternoon at about 1:45 eastern time. the voice on the new ad is that of woods' late father. take a listen. >> i want to find out what your thinking was. i want to find out what your feelings are. and did you learn anything? >> and the chairman of augusta national golf club had some very harsh criticism of woods. billy paine said woods disappointed everyone involved with the masters and their kids and their grandkids. he said the future will not be measure bit tiger's performance but by the sincerity of his efforts to change. >>> well, now to bristol palin, daughter

mr. jack nicholas. >>> good morning. mm mmmm >>> the 2010 masters has now officially begun. have fun. >> billy payne there with two real legends. joining us again is jimrecord-setting super bowl, a cliff hanging ncaa championship, and now the 25th year covering a masters tournament with the return of tiger woods. just another day in your life, right, jim? >> i'm pretty fortunate, believe me. i count my blessings every day. >> i understand that to be true. if tiger woods is going to find redemption, will he find it in augusta this year? >> are you talking in terms of maybe winning here? because i think it will take a titanic effort on his part to just come right out cold after five months of not being in competition, adjusting to the green speeds here, all the craziness that surrounding the tiger story for the last five months, plus the fact he's been getting reacquainted with everyone, people he hasn't seen for half a year. and i just think the whole experience is very draining and i don't think his game is in top form anyway. so i don't expect he'll win, but you never sell him short. we've learned that many times. >> does he make the cut? >> i think

mr. president, notwithstanding rule 22, i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to executive calendar number 647, the nomination of jim esquea, assistant secretary of h.h.s., that the nomination be confirmed, the motion to reconsider be made and laid on the table, no further motions be in order, the president be immediately notified of the senate's action and any statements appear in the prord as if read. the presiding officer: is there objection? mr. kyl: mr. president, i object. the presiding officer: objection is heard. mrs. mccaskill: mr. president, notwithstanding rule 22, i ask unanimous consent that the senate proceed to executive calendar number 648, the nomination of michael w.punke, the motions to reconsider be made and laid upon the table, no further motions be in order, the president be immediately notified of the senate's action and that any statements relating to the nominee appear at the appropriate place in the record as if read. the presiding officer: is there objection? mr. kyl: mr. president, oib. the presiding officer: objection is heard. mrs. mccaskill: mr. president, notwithstanding rule 22, i as

mr. president. there are two judicial nominees on the calendar from north carolina whom i believe would be confirmed by this body overwhelmingly. judges jim wynn and al diaz, nominees for the fourth circuit court of appeals were both approved by the senate judiciary committee in january. judge diaz had the vote of every single member of the committee and just one senator opposed judge wynn. the reality of this situation, though, is that north carolina has been waiting for one of these judges since 1994. that's 1994. since then, there has been only one judge from north carolina on the 15-judge panel of the fourth circuit court of appeals, even though north carolina is the largest and fastest growing of the five states in the fourth circuit. partisan bickering has continually blocked qualified north carolinians from confirmation since the court's establishment back in 1891. but in consultation with both me and senator burr, the president has appointed two highly qualified, experienced and fair-minded north carolina judges -- al diaz and jim wynn. judge diaz of charlotte is a business court judge and handles extremely complex business cases.

jim: real good hack. maybe a little out of the strike zone. >> gary: eric davis used to talk about those kind of foul balls all the time. missed it by that much. there's mry. ball and a strike on scott, batting with 2 outs and known on every time he calls the ball, he hears it. scott just tried to put the ball in play. 3 strikeouts and 3 trips. left field, it will, but crawford is there, backs up on it and has it for the out. garza has back to back 3 out innings. bottom of the. 8th. >> gary: tonight's forward drive in the game, a big hit by evan longoria. this a gaper, drove in 2, and that's the difference in the game for evan longoria. the ford drive of the game invites you to experience ford like never before. drive one. dave trembley talking it over. will ohman stays on the begin the 8th inning. >> jim: this is about zobrist, you want to turn it around. but he was a good hitter. of course whether you get him out or not, you're going the bring in meredith. >> gary: pena will follow longoria, so it's switch right left in this 8th inning as the orioles try to keep this a 1- run definite -- deficit heading into the 9th inning. center field, 1 pitch 1 down

jim: it appears he will help you out. the irony he walked only one in the last four starts. starting with the leadoff walk. maybe the orioles will get a rest from mrn too often. >> gary: he has walked nine in the 20 innings that he had worked. 2-0 delivery on the way, and markakis taking it for the strike. 2-1 for the count. >> jim: i think another thing, a lot of times it doesn't manifest itself to the base on balls but you like to get them wild on the strike zone. >> gary: that's a base hit into left center field, and markakis starting the inning out with a single here in the 6th. the jr. orioles dugout club presented by chick-fil-a, the kids get tickets to ten games, the membership card, and the lunchbox and it's only $17 and get exclusive giveaway items at each game and family and friends get tickets for just $6. orioles.com or stop by any chick-fil-a location. seven hits now for the orioles. wieters with the big cut. wieters has singled, driven in the only run, and reached on an error. >> gary: -- >> jim: the one thing when he gets behind, 2-0 hitting .421. doctor. >> gary: kotchman, one, relay, not quite. hernandez got over there to cover. n

dennis jim will allow in certain places where communication should be had and other suboptimal but it was an important one and i think he made that point. >> thank you very much gentleman. >> thank you mrn. mrs. bourne. >> thank-you. i would like to understand a little bit better what the synthetic collateralized debt obligations are who. at the can beginning to understand cash, cdo's, but i would appreciate mr. dominguez, if you did indicate for us what the difference between a cash cdo's and synthetic cdo's is. my understanding right now is and that we in a synthetic cdo's mad the than the -- rather than containing actual rmbs, for example, it would include credit defaults swaps or other kinds of derivatives on asset backed securities. is that correct. >> that's the essential difference. there were other technical the references that that's the key difference. >> and how much of the issuance of cd -- cdo's piatt citi -- i know what your schedule is next year. i know how impropable it was to do what we have just done. to think we can keep doing this for i don't know how long, i don't allow myself to think which did not report to maine was a new and growing market and i don't have the