mr. jocelyn. i would like to ask you with the building designed in 61 what type of drawings would you expect as a registered architect and with dr and wouldn't the existing drawings at a minimum reflect what it is i oom not discussing the merging or not. that's not the issue for me. it's the type of drawings submitted and what type of open door it gives somebody to submit drawings for this type of approval. >> i have to state first i'm not a registered architect in california. i am registered in oregon so with that disclosure i would say for these purposes the kinds of drawings that are provided are not atypical for these processes and acceptable in the manner that was described. that it's not necessarily a requirement of a stamp in our code -- >> i know that. >> nor is it necessarily typical of the process for changes of this modest scale. it might be worth hearing a little more from the sponsor the extent about which an engineer has been involved in the project. that's not exactly what i heard.