mr. jocelyn and mr. fry and gone though how to communicate this; right? so in this was we're going to be voting on. >> hey just to add to that what was helpful it is helpful for the staff in particular the environmental review staff to understand the commissions concerns then we can communicate those concerns ahead of time to the project sponsor we're not just reacting to the eir but drafting it ahead of 7, 8, 9. >> 2 will think formally drafted as the historic preservation commission. >> commissioner antonini. >> on the same subject we have situations with the project sponsor or the commission has agreed to the preservation alternative oftentimes the new project isn't not conceptual you're wanting to delineate but sometimes, it's night and day so it's noting other things to throw out to you guys where the projects we're combining the historic elements. >> absolutely understand that's at&t's an issue as a policy on facadeism because they may not agree with the direction the commission is taking so we may want facadeism to save some of the buildings not to