mr. jocelyn do you believe over the course you developed after our initial let's talk about commonly heldrinciples that the recommendations that came from your staff and yourself have been followed given what we see today. >> where that from our prefshg generally the answer a yes, we move the project further and that's a little bit academic you know we had that discussion about some other variances on this kind of theme we've arrived and comfortable this is why the project is here in that form and in terms of this element we still had concerns about the entry subsequence on both sides of the building and both the plazas and again a little bit of talk about the plazas on turk and enough programming and building for this project to have two front doors in the way those potentially are appropriate right now we feel that the entries with not particularly pronouns and significant in idea of being able to read the - there's questioning around the small plaza on market business hours and food court is really the answer there and the fact there is a connection to the lobby and other connection on

mr. jocelyn who very well summarize the challenges that the department has posed and i consider them to be correct and i do believe that dir. rahm stance with the department as a starting position and in deposition there are number of things they can't change but to go all the way back to an unsolvable situation which is been tossed awake around for years i think is completely counterproductive and is not the support we 02 the department in this particular battle. >> if i may commissioners, in order to move this along, perhaps the best thing to do is not referred to either scheme. i don't hear any concern from the commissioners about the mass and the height of this building. i think i would suggest that you leave that open to for further discussion and then i would specifically suggest you include that commissioners,, that to commissioners be involved in these discussions so we can resolve this and the subsequent discussion and i would suggest it's not critical to refer to either scheme at this point. do we simply have this discussion as we move toward understand the mass in the bulk of th