mr. dean. his former colleagues -- >> he is under investigation. >> no, he's not under investigation. he has denied being under investigation. this has been an issue in the race where he's been connected to this john doe investigation in milwaukee and you're right, his former aide is under criminal investigation. walker himself is not under criminal investigation. >> you know, jim dean, i'm reading reports where he's actually said, has alluded to the fact he is but keep going. >> you know these are not the issues. this is just smokescreen by mr. barrett. look, the issue is union power. curbing public union power. you know it, i know it, bob costa knows it, the whole world knows it. i want to ask you your opinion, okay, you're part of this union movement. why is it that half the membership of afsme has left, dropped out, as soon as the union dues were made voluntary, not mandatory, half the membership in the last year just dropped out of the state and local unions. that tells me they're probably going to drop out of the democratic column also. >> well, i would caution you on that, larry. 30% of union members in ohio used to vote republican. that was until last year, when governor kasich tried to pa