mr. john franklin from the san francisco mental health association, on collecting behaviors. and he actually brought a staff person in to really give a face to what collecting behavior really is all about. and it was really an insightful presentation and i think that everyone in the room really got something from it. and will learn from it and will be able to take it back to the communities and mr. franklin, they are always looking for referrals to assist people with this behavior. we continue to look for folks who are interested on becoming part of the advisory council. and there are 22 positions that are on the council and right now, we are down a few. and so we are always looking for folks who are interested. and our person who is our chair person, cathy, and is always, looking for the good referrals for the people who are would be good on the advisory council. >> we are continuing to do our site visits and that is an ongoing effort by the council members to really go out and visit all of the sites that dos supports and to go in as consumers and not staff persons. we had t