jon corzine to make to the board. is that incorrect? >> that's incorrect. >> okay. a statement was read that mr. corzine made to investors shortly before the collapse that it presented no threat to capital of any consequence a week before the collapse, the cfo told standard & poors, s & p, that global -- mf global is in the strongest position ever and actually while moodies had downgraded mf global to junk status four days earlier at the to time of the collapse, s & p had mf global at investment level. were you talked to? >> no. did you know the representations were being made? >> the -- mr. corzine's comments, i believe, were public if i understood the quote that you were referring to. and the representation, as i mentioned, before from mr. steamcamp, i was not involved or couldn't represent him on what the context was that he was -- >> did you pass along to anybody that you disagreed with the representations, that you thought there was, in fact, risk? who did you tell? >> sir, as i mention ed, as far as the risk highlights and risk reporting goes, you know, for example, at the august board mee