mr. jordan sure did. maybe he was punished for raising tough questions in advance of the hearing and should have waited. but again, those are questions. sheriff nehls, also one of our selections, was right there with these braif capitol police officers, holding down the house of representatives so the chamber wasn't breached. but again if the integrity of that commission is undermined because speaker pelosi chose to remove people who are going to ask tougher question, ultimately it proves that this this is in the a commission set on finding the facts it's a commission set on establishing a narrative. regardless of the facts. that is a disgrace for this constitution to -- for this institution to go down that road. there is still time to reconsider. i urge the majority to reconsider how they use or abuse the power that's vested upon them. i would yield. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. your side had an opportunity to support the capitol police. your side had an opportunity to support law enfor

mr. jordan sure did. maybe he was punished for raising tough questions in advance of the hearing and should have waited. but again, those are questions. sheriff nehls, also one of our selections, was right there with these braif capitol police officers, holding down the house of representatives so the chamber wasn't breached. but again if the integrity of that commission is undermined because speaker pelosi chose to remove people who are going to ask tougher question, ultimately it proves that this this is in the a commission set on finding the facts it's a commission set on establishing a narrative. regardless of the facts. that is a disgrace for this constitution to -- for this institution to go down that road. there is still time to reconsider. i urge the majority to reconsider how they use or abuse the power that's vested upon them. i would yield. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. your side had an opportunity to support the capitol police. your side had an opportunity to support law enfor

mr. jordan, who is next in line, or go back to ms. fischbach? mr. jordan -- rep. jordan: go to ms. fischbach. rep. fischbach: i appreciate that. i have a question for mr. popper. justice alito identified a nonexhaustive list of circumstances for courts to consider. you touched on it a little bit in your testimony. one of those circumstances is the start of the burden that the size of the burden imposed by the voting rule. justice alito noted that mere inconvenience is insufficient. can you expand a little bit on what that means? mr. proper: -- mr. popper:. yes. in many ways, thank you for your question, i am sorry i was organizing something else. in many ways, it is an application of what we call the anderson burden test where you have an administrative burden to a civil right, you assess the importance of the state interest and how much of an inconvenience it is. if it is a severe inconvenience, that is one thing. if it is not, at another point the court mentions, if there are other ways to get done what you need to get done as a voter, you have to take that into account. you have

mr. jordan: the leader and jim are exactly right. this has always been about politics and today's actions of the speaker confirm that. frankly, and i've said this before, what else are they going to talk about? they're so focused on the january 6 committee are they going to talk about crime? the fact that crime is up in every major urban area in this country? are they going to talk about the border crisis? march was the highest month on record for illegal crossings until april, april was the highest month until may, may was the highest month on record until june. can't talk about that are they going to talk about inflation? are they going to talk about the price of eggs is up, the price of milk is up, the price of an airline ticket is up, the price of everything is up. they can't talk about that. so they're going to be partisan and focus on this. but as the leader said, and as mr. banks said, i don't think they're going to address the fundamental question. the fundamental question of why wasn't there a proper security presence at the

mr. jordan, mr. banks, from the committee, but really in effect they had completely disqualified themselves in their thoughts and in their actions. imagine the deflection that mr. jordan attempts there. it's torturous. it's not going to convince anybody that somehow this is an investigation of speaker pelosi. what happened on january the 6th, and thank you for recognizing i was there. it's still -- it's still incomprehensible to me that that happened. that americans incited by an american president attacked americans, using our flag, using a trump flag, beating other members -- they would have beaten any one of us and would have killed any one of us. they would not have distinguished if i was a republican or democrat. they came to hang, to assassinate, to kill, to do violence. so the speaker has done the right thing. what we must get at, now six months after this insurrection are the facts and the truth. let them take us where they may. it may tell us that some people were involved. it may tell us th

mr. jordan. >> i think the chairman for yielding.fauci initially said you don't need to wear masks and then said he need to and then he said to masks and then he said one mask and that no mask and now wearing masks again so when it comes to the question of the origin of the virus. he has had just as many physicians and initially said united states taxpayer money did not fund the wuhan institute of virology and then said we did that through a subgrant but then said no no no we had no data function research and then said we find it there was gain of function research but it was a sound scientific decision and then he said it would be negligent not defined the lab in china talk about all over the board is ever-changing statements to the american people regarding the subject matter that this committee should be working into. look at this e-mail we have through foia request this goes clear back to january 31st, 2020 the e-mail that doctor fauci received from doctor christian anderson he was one of the individuals who gets the tax dollars.

mr. jordan. >> thank you, mr.irman.og i want to thank the chairman for putting this hearing together today on this important subject. i was just thinking about in a broad sense how -- how serious this situation is. americans have a fourth amendment expectation of privacf regarding all their information including as we've talked about information stored in the cloud, yet government can come to a third party like mr. burt's company and with something less than a warrant get that information and when government does that they tell mr. burt that he can't tell his customer what's going on, he can't tell his customer that, hey, your wh fourth amendment liberties have just been violated. g and when government initiates it all the attorney general doesn't even sign off on it. now, if that's not serious, i re mean, the current situation that brought us here is the situation that's been in the press and wer have had mr. barr, i think it's in mr. turley's testimony, he , says very first point the authorization, it's notable.

mr. jordan not being allowed on, but at the same time given that mr. jordan is a ranking member and mr. banks also is a leader of a large caucus, mr. davis is also -- or representative davis is also a ranking member and speaker pelosi didn't object to him and then representative nehls also voted to object along with representative banks and representative jordan. why do you think there was a difference between her objecting to representative banks and jordan as opposed to representative -- >> i don't know because she named a chairman who objected to presidential and she has raskin who asked for impeachment too so i don't know if the objection matters because her members have objected before. >> yes, sir. >> the bus with the gear on it, that's a finding from the senate report. >> yeah. >> what do you want to find out, who locked the bus? >> why was it there? why didn't they have the gear on? >> isn't the answer that they were just incompetent? what more do you know? >> well, then what's the solution? we want to find solutions. this is why when you look at sheriff troy nehls, 30 years of

mr. jordan. mr. gates we're on a roll mr. chairman last week.ou brought big tech to heal this week bringing the department of justice to heal my heart flutters to think what might be in our next committee week. maybe we'll reform fisa and continue the bipartisan momentum. i believe that the department of justice and the intelligence community shouldn't threaten or spy on members of congress our staff or the press for politics. president biden believes the same thing in response to questions from cnn's caitlin collins president biden committed that he would not allow the weaponization of his government against the press. chairman nadler agrees matter of fact chairman nadler stated and i'm quoting directly congress must make it extraordinarily difficult if not impossible for the department to spy on the congress or the news media. we cannot rely on the department alone to make these changes. when i saw the reports about members of congress offices being targeted mr. swalwell mr. schiff, i was the first and the only republican to say that that was

mr. jordan in the 115th. prevent federal law enforcement from being able to obtain information from journalists to the work devices and accounts as well as personal devices and accounts and also prevent the government from conducting an end run around these prohibitions by preventing them from seeking third-party communications compelled by computing and -- held by services except in their exceptional services. i hope colleagues on both sides of the aisle have demonstrated by what appears a broad consensus today will join us in cosponsoring this bill and work to defend the freedom of the press against these practices. ms. oberlander, ms. bird, i would appreciate if you could expound on the need to address the secrecy orders being used by law enforcement to prevent targus of even being aware that their information is being sought and what type of oversight the court should be conducting to rein in the abuse of secrecy orders. >> thank you, congressman. i would suggest that by having again and narrow procedural

mr. jordan not being allowed on -- but at the same time, given that mr. jordan is a ranking member and mr. banks also is a leader of a large caucus, mr. davis is also -- or representative davis is also a ranking member and speaker pelosi didn't object to him. and representative nells also voted to object, along with representative banks and representative jordan. why do you think there was a difference between her objecting to representative banks and jordan as opposed to representative davis and -- >> i don't know, but she has raskin who objected and asked for an impeachment, too. i don't know if the objections matter, because her members have objected before. >> leader mccarthy, the large bus with the gear on it, that's a finding from the senate report. that's exactly what they -- >> yeah. >> -- investigated. what do you want to find out? who locked the bus? why didn't they have the gear there? >> wasn't the answer just they were incompetent? what more do we need to know about it. >> what's the solution? weapon want to find solution. when you look at she

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mr. jordan won't have a mic that day, he could go outside the hearing room and make noise. it is pretty striking that mccarthy played a 24-hour press strategy here for something that's going to go on for months. >> what's problematic for mccarthy is without those republicans there to try to maneuver and block the investigation, those are awfully a lot of smoke for it not to be any fire coming from the republican caucus on this. >> as you dig deep enough in here, you know how many of them were complacent and how many of them were having conversations. how many of them have flip-flop on this. i think you are going to have a real problem when this starts to unfold and you see that quite frankly, you know, not just marjorie taylor greene was a problem here in the republican caucus but a lot of people in the acting as patriots but republican loyalists. that's going to be a problem for the republican house caucus. >> you mentioned -- they want the smoke but they're not ready for fire and the two do run together sometimes. someone who has handled all the smoke, liz cheney proven h

mr. jordan can't be on the committee. so maybe that's the reason.he just doesn't want to answer that fundamental question or anyju other questions. this is all political and we have known it from the start. >> tucker: jim jordan of ohio, thanks for joining us tonight. appreciate it. >> youou bet, tucker. thank you. >> tucker: so, two years from now, it think tank tells republicans we need to invadede iran. pause and ask who is the person giving this advice? meanwhile, we are learning much more about the fbi's involvement in another alleged activebi domestic tournament. -- terrorism. that would be the pledge to kidnap the governor of michigan. now prominent democrats at the time blame trump for this alleged plan. so what was the plan? well, buzzfeed, of all places had confirmed that the fbi had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. in other words, the fbi helped plan it. one fbi informant organized to kidnap the governor. another informant prodded the mastermind kidnapping plot to advance his plan. texts from

mr. jordan for allowing me. i have a speech and it will take me a while to get there so i appreciate him switching spots of me. -- switching spots with me. in addition to being a senior member for quite a few years, i also serve on the foreign affairs committee and i am the ranking member and past chair of the asia and pacific subcommittee and in that capacity, republicans and democrats have been very closely watching, observing, monitoring what the prc and chinese communist party are up to and the threat that they posed to americans and their citizens. it is known, i think it was noted in the statement of a few witnesses, the chinese communist party uses a vast civilian surveillance network to track nearly every movement of every single person and there is 1.4 billion people who they are tracking. it's a pretty extensive effort that they have undertaken. for example, they forced their citizens to download apps that monitor them. they track social media posts to look for what they consider to be negative content

mr. jordan sure did. maybe he was punished for raising tough questions in advance of the hearing and should have waited. but again, those are questions. sheriff nehls, also one of our selections, was right there with these braif capitol police officers, holding down the house of representatives so the chamber wasn't breached. but again if the integrity of that commission is undermined because speaker pelosi chose to remove people who are going to ask tougher question, ultimately it proves that this this is in the a commission set on finding the facts it's a commission set on establishing a narrative. regardless of the facts. that is a disgrace for this constitution to -- for this institution to go down that road. there is still time to reconsider. i urge the majority to reconsider how they use or abuse the power that's vested upon them. i would yield. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. your side had an opportunity to support the capitol police. your side had an opportunity to support law enfor

mr. jordan's office says mr. broader effort to overturn the election. i wonder if you share liz cheney's assessment that he is a crucial witness in the select committee's investigation or other congressional probes into january 6th? >> yeah. jim jordan was one of a very elite group in the congress who had virtually daily communication with donald trump when he was in the white house and probably has it now. jim jordan has been one of the chief conspirator purveyors that the election was corrupt and not valid. it stretches credulity to believe he was not privy to donald trump's direct attempts to overturn the election and to use the department of justice to do so. so, yes, i believe he is a material witness. whether he will be a reliable witness, will he weave and duck, you know, remains to be seen. but no question his testimony should be demanded and compelled if necessary. >> congressman, stay with us. i want to bring into our conversation neil khatiel. what legal recourse does someone like jim jordan have if he

mr. jordan for 5 minutes. >> thank you madam chair. let me go to mr. tolman. how often do we get the wrong person? where mr. williams told his compelling story of how they were wrong and he was arrested and detained for 30 hours. i know one family, a story of a couple in alaska who were not in the capitol on january 6 but they were handcuffed during the interrogation. they were at gunpoint. it was all based on facial recognition. how often do we get the wrong person? >> one time can be too many, but some estimate as high as 30%. i actually believe it is more than that. i have represented two individuals, one of whom and i am fairly certain -- we don't know about the ones who aren't publicized or coming forward, but i have a client who was accused of going inside the capitol, he was not in there, i believe it was facial not, recognition technology that put him in the law-enforcement investigation. we had to work backwards to show that he was not. i think it is more often than we know, because it is not being reported. >> mr. lee, he said 30%. we know that it is

mr. jordan. >> for the record, let me run down the line here. each of you believe that the virus started in a lab in wuhan, china? >> yes. >> yes. >> yes. >> and each of you believe by definition that it's man-made, engineered? >> not correct. >> it's very unlikely this was found in nature, but it could be brought to a population center of around 11 million, which is kind of crazy, and when you say man-made, it could have been naturally evolved, which is what was suggested earlier. it's not like humans putting pieces together -- >> what do you think is more likely? humans engineering it, or what you just described? >> this is speculation, but i think more likely, it was evolved by passage either in cells or by humanized mice to have a very virulent pathogen, at least a majority of which. but it's still the same thing, whether i -- still a lab -- >> it's still considered gain of function research? >> yes, if you are passing it to gain of function, that's gain of function. >> and do we get to answer? >> i saw head shakes from everyone. >> gain of

mr. jordan, what do you hope to accomplish on the republican side of the investigation?t going after president trump. you know, i mean, the democrats, they don't want to talk about anything else. >> we also got to get to the other two members who mccarthy picked because these are two people who voted to certify the election. you have rodney davis, the top republican on the house administration committee. he also is a republican who voted for creation of that commission. i mean, that's a significant vote because many of the republicans voted against the creation of the commission. there's also kelly armstrong who's a republican from the state of north dakota who voted to certify the election. we should also note that pelosi can reject any of these picks from mccarthy, and you've heard last night from benny thompson who's the top democrat on the committee. he said these are picks that ultimately pelosi will get to decide on. here's what he said about their behavior in the hearings. >> you know, i've been here 28 years. my committee is one of the more bipartisan committees

mr. jordan might also be called as a material witness. leader mccarthy called the move to block jordan and banks an egregious abuse of power and withdrew all the selections. it's possible that speaker pelosi will appoint other republicans to the committee. but either way, the hearings will proceed on tuesday. so what witnesses should the committee call? and what questions should they ask? let's begin with joyce vance. she's an msnbc legal analyst, a former u.s. attorney and a professor at the university of alabama law school. always good to see you, professor joyce. let me start with just the overarching goal of the committee. what are some of the absolute critical things that you think that this committee has got to come away with in terms of what it learns, what it exposes, what it proves? whattar are the drop-dead must-dos for this committee? >> you know, this committee has a really difficult job ahead of it. the big question that they have to answer is how are the american people supposed to understand what happened on january 6th as w

mr. jordan, we weren't given any warning here i had between 10 and 15 minutes as much money as i left my apartment, the water was up to here. seen many communities are still without power and water. it for the damage could run into billions of euros. people say they have no choice other than to start picking up the pieces. but it's obvious that it will take a long time before anything can get back to normal. here. the w reported julia sound jelly is on the ground for us in val. portside. julia. what's happening where you are in the region, in general, that's where we're standing right now is right by the river on which is the river that caused so much damage in this region in the viola. it went over the edge here along the entire course of the river, where all these villages are in the, in the valley. it destroyed the bridge you see behind me, but so many more that is also cause disruption to traffic in the area. it is very hard to reach many towns here and the, the police have said that up to 90 people have been confirmed dead in the vital region that is a higher number than they had de

mr. jordan? . >> do you see it as a fruitful enterprise to try to question donald trump himself?te of time and it's better just to question everybody around him and build the documentary evidence of where was he? who did he meet with and speak with? >> well, i don't think we've made that decision. we'll follow the facts where they lead up. i am mindful that the former president has a veracity problem, and so that has to be factored into the decision making. >> i want to ask you lastly, congresswoman, before we go. we were talking about so many things before we came on air that are connected. the threats against local officials around the country. republicans continue to perpetrate the big lie. a complete lack of trust and respect among a lot of people here in washington. the speaker the other day called kevin mccarthy a moron because of what he said when she put in place with the house physician the mask policy. again, in the house of representatives. i want you to listen to the leader this morning. the republican leader. >> we believe in science. and we want a speaker that will

mr. jordan who are trying to pretend that this thing didn't happen, that it was some sort of a field tripi think the speaker made the right call on that particular decision because of the questions that you raised that have to be the subject of the investigation the committee will conduct. >> congressman, house peeker pelosi says that the committee has a bipartisan quorum. right now the only republican on the committee is congresswoman liz cheney. cnn learned that the speaker is considering adding adam kinzinger, congressman from illinois, as another republican. broadly speaking, though, republicans have date canned they are not going to take the findings of this committee seriously. they are calling it a partisan hit job. how would potentially having someone like kinzinger on the committee potentially change that if not among your colleagues, then among republicans more broadly across the country? >> i think that's really the question, the second point. republicans more broadly. and really americans more broadly across the country. this shouldn't be a partisan effort. unfortunately, kevi

mr. jordan, republican callings on this matter. ize the judiciary committee, judgment from ohio, mr. dryden for his opening statement. >> thank you, mr. thomas. in the u.s., the government should not spy on its citizens, plain and simple. cases went surveillance on american is necessary to prosecute crimes, it should be a high for the government getting approval to do so. the church committee investigation into the fbi's actions in the 20th century provided a roadmap righting the wrongs of domestic serenity and apparatus of checks and balances set up to uphold government accountable when it sought to invade the privacy of its citizens but this process is now in need of reform. laws and guidelines are easily sorted our system of subpoenas and national security letters and other tools the government disposal must be brought in line with constitutional considerations for basic due process. we tried to make progress in recent years and we have much more work to do. usa freedom act made improvement to the patriot act but many deficiencie

mr. jordan, welcome back to mad money. >> thank you, thanks for having me. >> i've got to tell you, i'm mixedn. i thought it was a great quarter and what i care about is loan growth, and you went over and over that loan growth is good. some of these analysts, raymond james analysts saying that you may have another step down on the income outlook i'm trying to jive this notion of what the income outlook looked like. the latter is more important >> absolutely. we've got two forces that are sort of working against the banking sector right now one is obviously low rates and the other is the absence of strong loan growth in this economy. it's partially a function of the significant amount of excess cash or liquidity sitting in the system, and it's really, i would say, a little bit about the reluctance of the hesitancy to continue to invest or growth as the pace of the recovery is being affected by the delta variant and things of that nature as well as some of the uncertainty around fiscal policy, what's going to happen to returns and tax rates, capital gains rates, things of that nature. as we loo

mr. jordan sabotaged those investigations. and he would have been a fact witness. so mr. both ways. you know, he can't attack this commission, vote against its existence and then ask the very questions that an independent commission would have aebed. he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. it doesn't hold any water. we should be grateful he is nowhere near what this committee is going to try to do. >> kevin mccarthy put out a statement this last miles an hour. it says in part, speaker pelosi's rejection of the republican nominees to serve on the committee and self appointment of members who share her preconceived narrative will not yield a serious investigation. what do you think about that? more importantly, how do you think americans are perceiving this message? do you think americans will say we have republicans, we have democrats, there is a level of integrity in this committee's work? >> i think an independent commission would have made it easier to convince americans. all i can ask is look at people's words. democracy isn't a spectator sport. you have got pay

mr. jordan, the ranking member of the school committee for five minutes. mr. rdan and your hair cut makes you look a lot younger today, too. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i don't know about that, i'm feeling pretty old here. thank you, i'm going to yield to the gentleman from california. >> thank you, ranking member jordan. and thank you, chairman for holding this hearing. i think one of the things that's coming out of this is the very testimony, i think, helps us frame questions i might not otherwise have asked. i first want to ask admiral cruz, you mentioned that likability was one of the characteristics that you thought should not be used. is that correct? >> well, it is often in many contexts, like in law firms, likability does come up. i'm not saying it can't be used, but it certainly-- would it surprise you that the university of california and other universities in california, likability has been deliberately put in in order to expand the diversity of the candidates? in other words, to move them up where they otherwise would not be qualified, based on thei

mr. jordan, what do you hope to accomplish on the republican side in this investigation? >> we know what this is about. this is about going after president trump. you know? i mean, the democrats. they don't want to talk about anything else. >> hmm. well, there you go. and that, right there, that's why kevin mccarthy chose him. to defend the disgraced-former president. still, the up disputed leader of the republican party. to defend the big lie and the big liar. the big liar. the white house with, you know, we all saw it. the whitewashers, excuse me, i should say, that we all saw with our own eyes on january 6th. a trump-supporting mob trying to overturn our free-and-fair elections. that, on the -- that, on the very day that the first capitol rioter convicted of a felony was sentenced. his name is paul hodgkin's. pleading guilty last month to obstructing counting of electoral votes. there he is. you see him inside the senate chamber wearing a trump shirt and carrying a trump flag. the judge, today, sentencing hodgkin's to eight months in prison, less than the year and a ha

mr. jordan. mr. jordan, and your haircut makes you look a lot younger today. >> thank you, mr.hairman. i don't know about that. i am feeling pretty old but thank you for the hearing. i am going to yield to the gentleman from california. >> thank you ranking member. thank you, chairman, for holding this hearing. i think one of the things coming out of this helps us bring questions i might otherwise not have asked. i want to ask admiral cruz, you mentioned likability was one of the characteristics you thought should not be used, is that correct? admiral cruz: well, it is often in many contexts, like in law firms, likability comes up. i'm not saying it can't be used but it certainly -- >> would it surprise you the university of california and other universities, likability has been deliberately put in in order to expand that diversity of the candidates? in other words, move them up where they were it otherwise not be qualified? based on their task -- based on their test scores and grades. isn't likability, and your own words and observation isn't it a , great way to end up not nec

mr. jordan? we will go to our panel and then after the first one, we come back to our members of the select subcommittee. i know that the panelists we will hear from next our colleagues who have been working on the front lines of various portions of this pandemic but also looking into different avenues we can at least get some information on regarding the origins. that will start with ranking numbers of the energy commerce committee. >> i appreciate you bringing us together today. and to answer this question as to understanding the origins of covid-19. the pandemic is the public-health question of our time. this is about accountability read this is about holding china accountable for its actions. this is also about preventing the next pandemic and stopping the death and destruction that comes with it. to do that, we must understand how it started. as the republican leader on the energy commerce committee, i oversee public health. we are taking our duty very seriously, seeking the truth. i ensure