mr. josten: this is definitional. there is a big difference between somebody stealing your personal information, hacking into a corporation to do corporate espionage. if somebody dropped a bomb on a structure, that would be considered an act of war. what if somebody attacks a critical infrastructure. nove of these things have been defined the way the private sector is comfortable. we have a huge task force that we have been working with. we will be involved with the federal government from the f.b.i. to d.h.s. and cybercommand trying to answer those kinds of questions and they are asking what are you going to do that in terms of detection, prevention and response. >> i would like to ask you about the western hemisphere. able to uphold that? mr. donohue: for more than 50 years we didn't do anything some -- it appears everyone is going to keep talking. i believe that will go through administration. brazil, at particularly. the changes there, we will see how they play out. i believe it is an area some disquiet. very impo