final question mr. joyce what is next for mr. snowden we can expect?justice. >> michael: the public agrees a poll from usa today finds that a majority of americans think edward snowden should be prosecuted, but the polls all reveal the conflicting views of the leak in general. so now that the public knows their privacy was violated they are mad at the guy that told them about it. joining us now is james warren the washington bureau chief for the new york daily news. thanks for being back with us jim. >> thanks for having me michael. >> michael: on sunday bob schieffer had some choice words for snowden. >> these procedures were put in place and are being overseen by officials we elected and we should hold them accountable. i think what we have in edward snowden is a narcissistic young man who has decided he is smarter than the rest of us. i don't know what he is beyond that, but he is no hero. if he has a validing point, he would greatly help his cause by coming home to face the consequences. >> michael: i kind of agree with schieffer but then bradley m

. >> final question, mr. joyce, what's next for mr. snowden we can expect?stice. >> and thereafter hearing, reporters including our griff jenkins trying to get more answers from the nsa director. >> what's next? >> you'll see. >> are you going to reveal classified information? >> we're going to reveal more nofgs the public on the -- some of the terrorist plots and how we oversee the programs and the compliance that we use for them. >> general, how long have you been collecting data? >> this way? >> no. >> could you tell us how long you've been collecting the data? >> come on, guys. watch out. >> we're in here. >> refresh my memory. how long have you been collecting the data? general, can i ask you? what do you say your critics like senator rand paul who say what you're doing is violating the constitution and overreaching the government? >> i would tell you everybody has a difference of opinion, but i'd just tell you that dorts, the administration, and congress all agree to what we said. thank you. >> and finally -- >> excuse me, sir. >> you spoke of the rigo

mr. joyce, you have been in the f.b.i. for 20 years.you have conducted criminal investigations as well. sometimes you get a simple tip that leads to a broader investigation. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> so without that initial tip, you might not have found the other weighty evidence scent to that tip? >> absolutely. >> so in a case of mulola, in 2007, the very fact that under the 215 records there was a simple tip that was, we have someone who is known to have ties with al-qaeda's east african network calling a phone number in san diego. that's really all you got was a phone number in san diego. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> and according to the unclassified report, that tip ultimately led to a full investigation that led to the february 13 conviction. is that correct? >> yes. >> so without that first tip -- you weren't up on his electronics communications, he was not the subject of any investigation prior to that tip from the national security agency? >> no, actually he was the subject to our prior investigation se

. >> mr. joyce, if you could help us understand that, if you get a piece of a number, there's been some public discussion that, gosh, there's just not a lot of value in what you might get from a program like this, that has this many levels of oversight. can you talk about how that might work into an investigation to help you prevent a terrorist attack in the united states? >> sure. >> investigating terrorism is not an example science. it's like a mosaic. we try to take these disparate pieces and bring them together to form a picture. there are many different pieces of intelligence. we have assets, we have physical surveillance, we have electronics surveillance you through additional legal process, also these programs that we're talking about here today. they're all valuable pieces to bring that mosaic together, and figure out how these individuals are plotting to attack the united states here or whether it's u.s. interests overseas. so every dot, as general alexandre mentioned, we here the cliche fr

mr. joyce, you have been in the f.b.i. for 26 years.you have conducted criminal investigations as well. sometimes you get a simple tip that leads to a broader investigation, is that correct? >> that is correct, chairman. >> and so without that initial tip you may not have found some of the other weighty evidence that happened subsequent to that tip, is that correct? >> absolutely. >> so in the case in 2007, the very fact that under the business 215 records there was a simple tip that was we have someone that is known, with ties to al qaeda's east african network calling a phone number in san diego. that is really all you got, was a phone number in san diego, is that correct? >> that is correct. >> and according to the unclassified report, that tip ultimately led to the f.b.i.'s opening of a full investigation that resulted in the february 2013 conviction, is that correct? >> yes, it is, chairman. >> so without that first tip you weren't up on his electronics communications, he was not a subject of any investigation prior to that tip fro

mr. joyce, you have been in the f.b.i. for 20 years. you have conducted criminal investigations as well. sometimes you get a simple tip that leads to a broader investigation. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> so without that initial tip, you might not have found the other weighty evidence scent to that tip? >> absolutely. >> so in a case of --, in 2007, the very fact that under the 215 records there was a simple tip that was, we have someone who is known to have ties with al- qaeda's east african network calling a phone number in san diego. that's really all you got was a phone number in san diego. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> and according to the unclassified report, that tip ultimately led to a full investigation that led to the february 13 conviction. is that correct? >> yes. >> so without that first tip -- you weren't up on his electronics communications, he was not the subject of any investigation prior to that tip from the national security agency? >> no, actually he was the subject to our prior investigation seve

this is probably a question for mr. joyce. you have said that if a u.s. person overseas, or a non-u.s. person living in the united states -- if we become aware that they may be involved in terrorist activity, they are served process. could you go into detail about how that happens, and how a court is involved if we become aware a u.s. person is involved? >> i think either maybe i misspoke or you misspoke. we are not looking at all at u.s. persons. the 702 is anyone outside the united states. even a u.s. person outside the united states is not included in the coverage. it is a non-u.s. person outside the united states, and three different criteria go through. one of those links is terrorism. specifically, only certain individuals are targeted. those linked to terrorism. on numerous occasions, as i have outlined in some examples, individuals outside of the united states were discovered communicating with someone inside the united states. that is being tipped from the nsa. we then go through the legal process here, the fbi does, regarding that u.s. person. w

general alexander, or mr. joyce, could you explain how the attack could have been prevented?n and there. if we would have had the reasonable suspicion standard, we'd have to look at that. assuming that we did. if we had the database we had now with business records fisa and and we searched the data number. we could have tipped it to the fbi. >> so what did you take away from that answer? do you think the 9/11 could have been prevented if we had had the surveillance programs in place? i agree with general alexander. i think it could have been prevented. there's no such thing as a sure thing in this business. to me that would have added an extra piece of the mow sake and it would have improved our chances of being able to stop 9/11. >> someone who disagrees with you on a lot of these issues. republican senator rand paul talked about 9/11 in an interview with our jim acosta. senator paul said the failures before 9/11 had to do with a lack of police work, not seeking warrants, had nothing to do with the ability to listen in to phone calls what would your response be to that? >> i

persons, but can you -- this is probably a question for you mr. joyce just to clarify you've said if a u.s. person or overseas, or a non u.s. person living in the united states, that if -- we become aware that they may be involved in terrorist activity that they are served process. can you go into that level of detail of what then happens and how the courts are involved if we become aware that a u.s. person or -- is involved? >> so i think either maybe i misspoke or you misspoke. we are not looking at all at u.s. persons. the 702 is anyone outside the united states, and even if a u.s. person is outside of the united states it does not include that in the 702 coverage. it's a non u.s. person outside the unit has to have -- there's three different criteria, one of those links is terrorism. that is where specifically only certain individuals are targeted, those ones, under the criteria linked to terrorism. numerous occasions as i've outlined in some of the examples, those individuals, outside the united states were discovered communicating with someone ins

i recently introduced the bipartisan save act with the gentleman from ohio, mr. joyce, which would implement recommendations to push customs and border patrol along with fee da to adjust its structure and fully cover the cost of this program. my amendment would prevent customs and border protection from continuing to use taxpayer dollars to subsidize incoming vessels and travelers and make the program truly fee supported. my amendment would free up remaining funds to do what they should be doing, securing the homeland and facilitating travel, tourism and trade. more tourism and more trade mean more american jobs. mr. chairman, i think we can all agree this is a commonsense amendment that saves taxpayers' dollars and improves the environment for greater job growth. i urge my colleagues on both sides to support this cost saving amendment. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas rise? mr. carter: i rise in opposition to the gentleman's amendment. the chair: the gentleman is recognized. mr. c

mrs. rums felted, whose name is joyce, and we met when we were 14, in high school.been married since 1954, and if it were a little earlier in the evening, i'd tell you how many years that's been. [laughter] i don't want to guess and be wrong. [laughter] what she says to me when i go off on a book tour is, don, avoid being infatuated with or resentful of the press. they have their job, and you have yours. that's pretty good advice in dealing with the press. i take that advice about half the time. [laughter] [applause] >> you've been at so many levels of the government, incoming secretary of defense. when you were there, you know all the inner workings of how the government works. in regards to benghazi, what is the time line and should the president have known what was going on, and did he know, and he's just not saying that he does know? [laughter] >> it seems to me that a leader, if the people are being killed, get the people in the office, talk to them, and says i want ground truth. what's happened? how did it happen? what can we do to save some lives? how do we g

mr. -- did you have a question? oh, no. next speaker please. thank you. >> good morning. my name is joyce armstrong. i'm president of the public housing tenant association phta. we come here today in support of the san francisco housing authority, the mayor's office and staff, the supervisors and hud and the endeavor to turn the housing authority around. we are very thankful that we have been a part of the reform that's coming up and will continue to be and we are located at 1815 [inaudible] street month through friday. we want people to know they can access us there. thank you. >> thank you. let me read some more names, frank, amber, [inaudible] lynch. next speaker please. >> good morning everyone. my name is joel, i reside at the [inaudible] manor on turk street. like miss cohen sated, this is an eye opener and awakening because i moved in october of 2011 and woke up the next morning after thanksgiving with water around my ankles. i dealt with that best i could. another incident was when it rained real hard the december. my patio once again was flooded and water was in the living room area so i de

owner right now to yield the floor to the distinguished gentlelady from ohio, representative joyce beatty. mrs. beatty: thank you. i rise this evening to discuss a very important topic to me, a topic that is important to me, to my district and to this nation, why entrepreneurialship matters to black america. this week, we celebrate national small business week, which gives us a chance to collectively recognize small businesses and the impact they have and have had on our local communities in the nation. tonight, you will hear a lot about african-americans who started from humble means. african-americans who had great ideas and decided that they wanted to open a beauty shop, a barber shop, maybe a bakery or like my husband's family, a family restaurant. we'll hear the stories of how they became millionaires and billionaires. we heard about madam c.j. walker who started with a small idea and became the first african-american female millionaire. and we all know about the young lady in the state next to mine that grew up and wanted to be a radio announcer and 50 years ago, she had no idea that she