mr. katyal: thank you for having me.e doj is again asking trump's lawyers to return all of the sensitive, classified documents, this is after the fbi already retrieved thousands of documents from mar-a-lago in august with their search. would the doj be asking this if they didn't know for sure trump still had classified documents in his possession? mr. katyal: i don't think they need to know for sure, but i think they must have some good indication that donald to this day still is holding very sensitive documents that are either classified or otherwise national defense information. we already know that trump has held onto a whole bunch of highly sensitive documents involving human source information like who our spies are in other governments, perhaps nuclear information. we know it includes other things that aren't classified but are sensitive like donald trump's letters to the north korean leadership and the like. all of this, i used to be a national security advisor at the justice department, all of this i couldn't eve

mr. durham and his team had lost their way, ignoring signs of serious flaws in their cases because they were so intent on convicting someone. this "new york times" reporting and analysis, neal katyalts way, greg craig wanting to inform greg craig. >> i think that timeline you gave was really helpful. it's important to note that timeline you note starts in may 2019. there's a whole set of events that happened before that, which is the inspector general of the justice department had investigated all of these things already. so, durham was appointed by barr after there was already a full-blown investigation that concluded that there was no problem. durham then started saying, oh, no, i disagree with the ig's investigation. and that's led to where we are now. and it is an absolute disgrace. i mean, i can't put this in simple enough terms, stark enough terms. but if you're a federal prosecutor, you really have to try to lose your criminal case. i mean, it's kind of like failing a class at stanford. you really got to try to do it. 99.6% of federal indictments, according to the pew research study, wind up in a conviction. and that's why there's so much of the justice department is design