so, mr. keith, perhaps we can hear your views on the procedural memo that the commission has put together and what was set forth therein. >> thank you, commissioner. the mayor's goal in these proceedings is to make sure they are fair proceedings in which the commission is going to have an opportunity, and the public is going to have an opportunity to hear all the evidence which is relevant to a determination of official misconduct in this matter. and we have made our proposals in that spirit, and there was a memo in that spirit. one thing that has become clear over the past week with regard to the sheriff's public statement and the various media outlets is that the determinations that the commission is going to make here and the recommendation that they are going to move forward to the board of supervisors is going to involve the resolution of credibility disputes, going to involve hostile witnesses, is going to involve a lot of witnesses who do not work for the city and so cannot be compelled to s

mr. keith had mentioned discovery. what about taking the evidence on june 19? >> we do not think we need anything. we think this case should have been prepared for presentation prior to filing a written charges of official misconduct. i actually did some historical research to date to find out that in the mazzola case, it was prepared prior to mayor moscone bringing those charges. that is apparently what should have been done, but i do not think they need to countenance that preparation. we have already got a significant burden in front of us to prepare for the 19th. we do not need to complicate that i have a discovery, in our case. chair hur: mr. keith? >> well, i think this goes back to an issue we raised at the last hearing, which is the duty of a representative to cooperate, and these materials would have normally been provided to us. they would have been given to us by the employee, and if the employee did not want to cooperate, they would resign. this is typically the way these things go,

what mr. keith just told you is not true. mr. mertons was interviewed by the police and was asked, did it sound like the sheriff was feeding his wife lines to tell you, to try to dissuade you? the response was no. it sounded like he was on another phone call together. this has been a complete waste of time and an effort to publicly tar the sheriff with something that is not just on provable, it is false. -- unprovable, it is false. chairperson hur: cat i invite you back up? -- can i invite you back up? the list you provided was longer than the list i provided. i apologize if it was not clear. who we need live are -- i put together a list of 3 witnesses we would need. the mayor, the sheriff, and miss lopez. -- ms. lopez. council has added mr. mertons and ms. williams. who i want to address, lynette haines, and ivory madison who was also on your list. do we need to hear from ms. haines live? >> i am not sure can answer that question. it depends. we're hopeful that ms. hens will provide a declaration. we know that she has been conce

mr. keith, i think we probably have some follow-up for you, as well. following mr. renne's line, do you have any objection of providing the information that was outlined? >> no. chair hur: how soon could you do that? >> we could write a one or two- line summary. there are some witnesses that we are still finalizing, those individuals will be, but once we get them, we would be happy to provide those. we have not been asked. commissioner renne: 1 or 2 descendants is, what does that mean? it has to be detailed enough so they understand the thrust of the testimony. >> oh, it will be. >> -- chair hur: how soon? >> as for the back witnesses, we could supply that with in one week. chair hur: and as for the police procedure witnesses? >> i would say about two weeks. one point that i would like to -- chair hur: as far as the legal issues, when could you have those briefed? same time >> let me think for a moment. yes, we could brief the legal issues, i would say, and the ones that we referenced before we could read immediately, meeting the standard of proof and the procedures

-- a fundamental disagreement with mr. keith about what the duties are? >> i suppose so. 6.102 -- i have to go back and check. i will give these to you in just a moment. only those, nothing more. commissioner liu: can you respond to that, please? >> certainly, the scope of the duties are disputed. there also contained under state law because the sheriff is also a state officer. with the recent realignment that has passed at the state level, there is a lot more discretion locally with regard to offenders' sent back to this jurisdiction. there's a lot of policy decisions, budget decisions. it is our position that if the ability to perform those duties is affected, in addition to his core duties, all of those duties are important that he be able to perform well. the share of is an elected official is expected -- sheriff is an elected official. we differ very much on that point. >> i apologize. i do not understand whether he can perform his job going forward is relevant to whether he engaged in a wrongful behavior relating to the duties of his or her office i

wagner, is that correct, how mr. keith characterized what the former mayor would testify to? >> i believe i have already stated the testimony would impeach the credibility, vis-a- vis the conversations he had with nearly -- with mayor lee. >> what would he say? what is this other reason? >> excuse me. mayor agnos told mayor lee to talk to eliana lopez directly, and asked whether he had spoken to any other mayor about his intention to suspend the sheriff. he indicated he had not. at minimum, that is extremely relevant to the suspension of the sheriff, in terms of his motivations, his lack of reviewing any evidence, or even contacting eliana lopez in this case before he suspended the sheriff. i will add as a former mayor we could have called mayor agnos just as the city attorney has called retired sheriff's, as a witness of what constitutes misconduct and when a mayor should suspend another official. >> mr. wagner, assuming that the mayor testifies, what you say mayor agnos is going to testify -- there is no need for him to come in and say anything. it does not attack credibili

chair hur: mr. keith? >> mr. waggoner had made a request for a bill of particulars. we would file charges that look more like counts for him to deal with that, the amended set of charges, count one, count two, count three. we can do that shortly, is essentially, provide them with the notice that they are complaining that they do not have. chair hur: ok. when can you do that by? >> by the end of this week. chair hur: is that acceptable, mr. kopp? >> yes. chair hur: great. thank you. >> i would only say for the record that that does not cure the defect for not having spot -- filed specific charges at the outset, and we would like to make that for the record. chair hur: your objection is noted. thank you. mr. m milledge -- mr. emblidge commissioners, anything else we need to address tonight? ok, then we will take public comment. public comment will be limited to two minutes. i will leave it to officers to identify where people should stand. ok, i have been told that everyone needs to line up on that side. officer, i am going to leave it to you to manage that process. ag

chairperson hur: we have heard from mr. keith earlier. >> she is here on this list because she can offer important testimony about was this just about a pension on the arm? was this just about a decision to turn the band around and not return to the restaurateur's of the more significant. this premium not about a plea deal. they're about the actual conduct and what the context means in terms of the public official, the acts of the public official and the relationship between those facts and public official's petition. -- position. we need to be able to explain his conduct and ms. lemmon was being offered in the criminal case, would have gone and served at trial for that exact same purpose, to show that there is more content than when share mirkarimi has a willing to admit. we think she is important for that reason. we have heard about -- what expertise where she offering? >> although she was the prosecutor in the case, and that case remains ongoing she is not coming to specs to this case. she is coming as the chief domestic viole

i just want to make sure mr. keith can understand our position, because we want to have an opportunity for him to respond, but i think we set it forth now adequately in the letter, because when you investigate, a complaint has to be brought to the commission, and the commission decides whether it will be brought to the commission. i thing we set forth the legal issues sufficiently pure good i want to make sure council can respond. >> what i understand is that it was a request for a legal opinion that was more inquisitive than stating a position, but we are happy to state our position on whether the procedures need to happen before the city attorney can investigate possible misconduct. good >> you have any thoughts procedure wireless -- procedurewise. what is the commission's role? >> the opinion comes from the commissioners. they can act on their behalf and make a judgment accordingly. >> would the staff to provide a memo of some sort? >> no, that is counsel. gooi did try to identify the provision that says in a person

now, i did want to address one point that mr. keith may. we do not intend to argue that these proceedings need to be private. indeed, we think they should be public because i think at the end of the day, there is a lot of innuendo and talk about the share dissuading people. the mayor's written charges say that he may have tried to dissuade a witness, and i want to mark my words. when all of this is said and done, it will be crystal clear that the sure did no such thing, and we want that to be clear to the people of san francisco. hiair -- chair hur: let me stop you there. so there is no dispute that the penal code section should not apply? >> correct. now, with respect to briefing schedules prior to the taking of testimony, whether it is with a declaration or live witnesses, i could answer almost all of the questions that the commission raised in the memo right here. i can tell you what we think the burden of proof should be. i can tell you what evidence we think you should rely on and go all of the way down the list if you would like me to

we'll get up close and personal with mr. keith judd later. >>> first the news live at 5:30. after years of evolving on the issue, and frustrating his progressive supporters, president obama made history yesterday. becoming the first sitting president to say gay and lesbian couples should have the legal right to marry. the white house admits the president did not intend to make an announcement this week. sam stein of the "huffington post" reports that the president has personally supported the issue for several months and was planning to make it public sometime before the democratic national convention in early september. after vice president biden came out in support of gay marriage in sunday's "meet the press," there was added pressure from gay and lesbian financial supporters for the president to clarify his views. in an interview yesterday with abc's robin roberts, president obama sat down to explain his opinion on marriage equality. >> i've always been adamant that gay and lesbian americans should be treated fairly and equally. i had hesitated on gay marriage, in part be

themselves are very well thought out if you know what well when you get right there thank you very much mr keith snow for that insight on that story think they're for. now weapon traffic into syria from lebanon has now become a reality with a constant flow of weapons going to the rebels and as artie's maria found out the men involved in this deadly business it is a matter of faith not just money as solar shows off his goods. this is five thousand dollars this is thirteen hundred eighteen hundred and two thousand the seven machine guns between two and a half and three thousand u.s. parks shaadi not his real name also has rocket propelled and hand grenades which he showed me in private people come or contact me every day we have a revolution next door. we talking shop his garage in tripoli lebanon syrian rebels are his major clients are very popular but recently they're looking for really have the stuff we buy from hezbollah and their allies and resell they have a nerve and they're getting it for free as iran makes their entire story. it'll take no more than ten hours for this shot he says to reac

who is keith and why is he so popular? >> reporter: it begins with mr. in west virginia it is embarrassingly low. so much so that a criminal serving a 210-month sentence for many people is preferable to a second term for the president. keith judd is cooling his heels inside a texas prison convicted of extortion pore making threats at the university of new mexico. he pays a filing fee in west virginia to get a place on the ballot. he apparently filed on all 50 states. he files quarterly reports which are rants against obama-care. he lists himself as a christian and founder of world peace through musical communication skills. president obama launched his campaign in virginia, but west virginia has never been a fan. judd carried 10 counties and is entitled to one delegate. it's not so much that judd is popular, it's that mr. obama is unpopular in a state where the president's policies have seriously hurt the coal industry. it was a tough night for the president. not only did he get beat by a convict in a bunch of counties. but in north carolina. 27 voted no

mr. murdoch. >> keith rupert murdoch. >> in front of you i believe you'll see a witness statement.signed and dated the 12th of april of this year with 44 exhibits. the declaration of truth on. are you content the inquiry besieger statement, your formal testimony? >> im. >> as i said to a number of other witnesses, indeed to many other witnesses, i'm very grateful for the obvious care that you have taken in the preparation of your evidence and them into your place before the inquiry and i wanted to report that. >> thank you, sir spent you're the chairman and chief executive officer of the news corporation, company incorporated in the united states? >> yes spent total assets $60 billion in annual wealth revenue of $34 billion, is that right? >> approximately, yes. >> for our purposes, you can be more parochial. approximately 80% of new scores revenue is generated in the united kingdom, 60% by news international, is that right? >> that is right. >> anyone who wants greater detail may look at her witness statement when it's published in due course. will it be fair to say that you have

and the person who's bringing him in is russell keith pearce, russell pearce, his sponsor when he's baptized into his church. when mr. ready ran for city council in mesa, arizona, there were four people on the ballot. j.t. ready came in second out of four. it undoubtedly helped him do that well that he had the endorsement from a republican state senator, from ruffle pearce. although he didn't make it on to mesa city council, he came in second, after all, j.t. ready did ultimately get elected as a republican party precinct committee man in arizona. the problem, of course, is that j.t. ready is a nazi! and that really should not be compatible with mainstream major party politics. after he game a republican precinct committee man in arizona, arizona republican congressman jeff flake and john shadegg asked for him to be removed from his post. and after his long association with russell pearce, his long, close association with russell pearce, russell pearce too walked away from j.t. ready. >> could i ask you if j.t. ready is your friend? >> j.t. ready showed up at a rally with me and j.d. hayworth, the great fiction arou

we should get keith judd the felon along with john wolf, the lawyer who has got all these votes in arkansas along with mr. uncommitted who would need a stand in like george clooney. >> if the guy in arkansas had had keith judd's mullett, he would have won. megyn: tkpwhroerpblg clooney is uncommitted. he keeps dating beauty after beauty. he never gets married. megyn: you can find out more about yesterday's primary results on both sides of the aisle and the latest in the race for the white house by checking out our website at foxnews.com/politics. the white house has now responded to stinging criticism from catholic leaders. dozens of catholic groups filed suit monday over religious freedom and the obamacare mandate that requires employers to provide contraception coverage. new york's outspoken archbishop cardinal timothy dolan saying the new rule is strangling the church and handcuffing religious institutions. when asked about cardinal dolan's remarks white house press secretary jay carney yesterday argued that the president's healthcare policy respects religious liberty and insures that women also have a

keith judd. here's jon stewart last night on mr. bama is so unpopular -- >> let's take a look at west virginia. the president lost roughly 40% of the vote in last night's democratic primary. he won overall, but lost the points to keith judd, a guy serving at a federal institute in texas. >> that is [ bleep ] up. wow! wow! i guess west virginia is one of them primaries where republicans can vote in the democratic primary just to mess with them, and then they -- wow! only democrats and independents? that is [ bleep ] up. please tell me that the guy who got 40% of the vote is wearing a coonskin cap, because -- or is being attacked by a ferret, because -- oh, boy. >> he's got that raccoon tail just there. >> that is just wrong. >> mr. judd from 1976 to 1982 was a member of the federation of superheroes, and in 2008 he ran in the idaho democratic primary. he won 1.7% of the vote. >> he came up with two grand to get on the ballot. >> yeah. $2,500 from prison. maybe sold some cigarettes or something. a little barter system in prison. >> may

keith the one in charge of destroying the hotel rooms? >> well, he -- actually, he wasn't in charge. he was greatly egged on by mr. townshend. hotel rooms? >> well, if you've been on the road for month after month after month, they become extremely boring. i mean, and you run out of fun to have. and then, you know, it gets out of hand and, of course, let's have some fresh air in here. >> jimmy: you run out of fun to have. are city the -- >> we once got banned from every hotel in new york. how do you do that? how did we do that? >> jimmy: that's impressive. >> that's a lot of hotels. >> jimmy: are there any that you are still banned from? >> no, no. actually, the truth is, they actually quite liked us because we used to pay the damage. >> jimmy: you did? >> in cash. >> jimmy: in cash? >> yeah. so, of course, we pay in cash and they claim insurance and it was -- welcome back, mr. moon! >> jimmy: that's nice. you really are going around the country remodeling. >> there was a hotel in new york where we used to say, they used to, when they knew we were coming, they used to put keith in the room they wanted decor e decorat decorat

mr. o'reilly and one of his guests complained last fall interest chaz ban know became the first openly transgender contestant on abc's dancing withs stars. that's not true. in an interview with dr. keith ablow who opposed chaz bono's appearance on the abc program i said this. >> if chaz bono is happy with what he has done, all right, if he -- he is he a happier guy, i don't know him at all so i don't know whether he is or isn't, but i'm sure he said he is, what's wrong? you are an american. can you choose now with medical science to do a lot of different things, you have the right to do it legally. so what's wrong with him doing it my take has been consistent. but this country is not compelled, not compelled to change societal narms unless there is a grave danger of something being done that's harmful. because of my position. liberal guys like stelt ter and the "new york times" want to hurt me. that sends a chilling rick sab tropical storm got hammered. gay marriage is a matter of conscience. it's a responsibility of the states to regulate major gay marriage. the politics of gay marriage will mostly likely hurt president obama's re-election chances. it's doubtful that will be reported

keith judd, a convicted felon in prison in texas. he paid his $2500 filing pea and he was on the ballot today in west virginia for president. yeah, even with mr. judd, not much suspense in the west virginia voting today. in indiana, a very consequential on the republican race. nbc news can predict that dick lugar lost his seat. richard mourdock is state treasurer. he's run three times before and lost each time. all the people left on the tea party side of things decided that richard mourdock is the guy they wanted to dump money on and end the 36 year career of senator lugar. he's never been controversial in indiana. he's won past elections by more than 30-point margins. in 2006, he won by 75 points. the democrats didn't run somebody against him. he got 87% of the vote. in terms of policy, he's always been just a mainstream conservative. one in expertise in foreign policy and arms control. those are not always very partisan things. they are the kind of political issues on which there's room for bipartisan agreement, which is why senator lugar turned up in a campaign. >> the single most important national security we face is the nuclear weapons

mr. o'reilly and one of his guests complained last fall interest chaz ban know became the first openly transgender contestant on abc's dancing withs stars. that's not true. in an interview with dr. keith ablow who opposed chaz bono's appearance on the abc program i said this. >> if chaz bono is happy with what he has done, all right, if he -- he is he a happier guy, i don't know him at all so i don't know whether he is or isn't, but i'm sure he said he is, what's wrong? you are an american. can you choose now with medical science to do a lot of different things, you have the right to do it legally. so what's wrong with him doing it my take has been consistent. but this country is not compelled, not compelled to change societal narms unless there is a grave danger of something being done that's harmful. because of my position. liberal guys like stelt ter and the "new york times" want to hurt me. that sends a chilling rick sab tropical storm got hammered. gay marriage is a matter of conscience. it's a responsibility of the states to regulate major gay marriage. the politics of gay marriage will mostly likely hurt president obama's re-election chances. it's doubtful that will be reported