mr. kelley was here earlier as well you just did not see him. >> right. >> mr. brooks, welcome. >> but before i can ask you a procedural question. we will be able to speak on the next item and the reason that i bring that up is that the commissioner... >> if there is a second to the next item. >> because commissioner courtney did not get to hear any of that. >> you can talk to him in private. >> since this is my only opportunity to speak, i will say, and i am sure that you have heard from many of us that the contrary to what the first speaker said, there have been no shanangans from the staff and they have done the (inaudible) work to listen to us and work with us and to look at the numbers and see what is happening in the market and lower the rate. and the lower it goes, the better. and 1.5 is a good start. and but i wanted to elaborate o and the reason that i was not at the first hearing today, to speak, is that at that time, some of us were meeting with, the labor council representative and discussed? the letter and discussing the issues, and we were able to