mr. mcshane: kara, most surprising finding? ms. kerwin: so if we were thinking or from the parents' perspective or respondents who said they have school-age children, what's interesting is that despite the fact so many of them felt there was too much testing and pressure on testing, there is almost a 50/50 split on the need for common core and then their valuing quality more or better education. but so, and it goes to the national debate that's going on now about testing, about common core and what parents actually value. but i wonder -- and some of those questions, paul, this is a question for you, when you were characterizing them into better education or quality, what -- were there just some -- is it -- does it just feel safer? mr. diperna: that's a great question. and we don't really define quality in that item. quality is one of those trigger words. it's going to be coded. usually it's better quality. higher quality. we just leave it to however the respondent takes that. and we do code for things like safety, more structure disciplin